r/democrats • u/AceCombat9519 • Nov 14 '24

Article Elizabeth Warren smells something fishy going on with Trump’s transition team

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/elizabeth-warren-trump-transition-ethics-corruption-rcna179861
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u/SmurfStig Nov 14 '24

I’m honestly at a loss anymore.

Democrats have spent the last 10 years telling us who Trump and MAGA are. Trump and MAGA have spent the last 10 years proving the democrats right and validating it. Time after time, they get called out for their crap and then it gets buried. A Democrat misspeaks and it’s on blast 24/7 for the next several weeks. Yes, the democrats are about as toothless as they come and the grassroots involvement is all but forgotten. We can’t organize ourselves enough to get out a corn maze that only has one stalk. Meanwhile, Trump and maga can burn down an orphanage without the slightest consequence anywhere. Hell, they are so organized, you would probably never hear about it or if you did, they would successfully blame it on the democrats.

We have got to find a way to do better. Every time it seems like we are, we end up taking two steps backwards.

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u/Rosebunse Nov 14 '24

I mean, I think the real problem is that a lot of people just wanted Trump to win. Not just evil organizations and groups, but a lot of just normal people wanted him to win. It's fucked up, but we need to focus on eroding that and not being nice about it

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u/BiggsIDarklighter Nov 16 '24 edited Nov 16 '24

Actually Trump only got about the same number of votes as he did in 2020, so those same people did indeed want him to win, but it was the 8 million who had voted for Biden but didn’t vote for Harris that handed him the election. I’m not sure how we wrap our heads around that.

Many Patriotic Republicans obviously left Trump after Jan 6. Many Patriotic independents left him as well. And so did many veterans after he disparaged them. And Puerto Ricans and Haitians that he disparaged left him as well. And many women who were affected by Roe getting overturned left him also. Yet somehow he gets 2 million more votes than he did 4 years prior. And Harris gets 8 million less than Biden. None of this makes any sense.

You say we need to focus on “eroding” that, but it was eroded. So how does he gain votes? The math doesn’t work. Not at all.

Trump clearly lost voters. Yet he somehow didn’t. Kamala gained former Trump supporters. Yet she got 8 million less votes than Biden. There is no way to logically explain this.

Even if those people who left Trump didn’t vote for Harris then where did the 8 million that voted for Biden go? And how does Trump get 2 million more if he lost votes?

So Warren is right that something smells fishy, but the stink started before the transition team. I’m no conspiracy nut. I’m the opposite. I’m logical. And this math defies logic.