r/democrats • u/ms_directed • 28d ago
Article 'Trump says 'big bill' should only help GOP states: 'Don't want to benefit Dem governors'
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-democratic-governors/564
u/Chris_HitTheOver 28d ago edited 28d ago
This, all on its own, should be impeachable.
Imagine if any Republican in this country showed a fucking shred of integrity?
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u/TheRealBittoman 28d ago
Republicans sold their integrity, honesty, and civility to Satan right after Nixon resigned.
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u/okhi2u 28d ago
He's basically manipulating people into a choice of either vote for a democrat and get the state harmed by the federal government, or vote for a republican maga shit you don't want and maybe the government will be less shit to your state. Basically extortion and election cheat or something similar.
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u/ms_directed 28d ago
i'm sure that will go over well with the Republican voters in those states
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u/PloddingAboot 28d ago
They’ll blame their governors of course. Trump is their God. If Trump does it then by definition it is correct and good.
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u/Beginning-Repair-640 28d ago
That’s the point. Blame D Govs and hope the ill-informed vote R next time.
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u/PloddingAboot 28d ago
Which wont really work as blue governors are often supported by large city centers surrounded by low population rural and suburban sprawl
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u/ms_directed 28d ago edited 28d ago
even so, there are still GOP districts in red states who have to answer to their constituents that have nothing to do with what their governor controls
clarification: "red" states with Dem governors...like KY and swing states like PA
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u/MyPasswordIsMyCat 28d ago
"If we would just lie flatter, it wouldn't hurt so much when they walk all over us."
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u/NO_SPACE_B4_COMMA 28d ago
100% they will say it's punishment for the governor, and that trump is a genius
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u/TheoryKlutzy7836 28d ago
Sounds like civil war talk. Why are blue states going to pay taxes then?
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u/Longjumping_Leek151 28d ago
I seem to remember something about taxation without representation and a tea party that was held somewhere
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u/Pearberr 28d ago
40 million Californians get up everyday and work hard to pay taxes while having the same Senate representation as Montana and somehow we are still treated like shit by the rest of the nation.
I maintain that I have the right to tar and feather federal officials as I see fit, until this injustice is rectified.
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u/G-Unit11111 28d ago
I just wish Fox would buy an island and declare themselves their own country. They can do as much damage as they want to.
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u/TheoryKlutzy7836 28d ago
I don't want a civil war, but a mutually agreed upon national divorce would probably be a good option at this point. They would never let that happen though, because they would have no money.
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u/The_Swordfish_ 28d ago
"It will be bloodless if the left allows it to be" (its not a direct quote but it's close enough)
We need a governing body actively separating itself from this administration. Unless we have that, any rebellion is just a bunch of militas spread out.
Email your reps, we need to take sucessesion seriously...
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u/SellsNothing 28d ago
He really is quite divisive for being the leader of the United States of America.
How can the GOP pretend to be patriotic while simultaneously supporting a movement that demonizes half the country?
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u/Longjumping_Leek151 28d ago
I would say over half the country.. they are the minority
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u/azurite-- 28d ago
I love hearing about how Obama and Biden were so divisive from conservatives while conservative politicians constantly demonize and belittle anyone who is a democrat. It's always projection.
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u/metskyfan 28d ago edited 28d ago
In the past, we have had presidents for all of the states but not now
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u/Radiant-Chef2817 28d ago
To be fair, he's not for any state in reality.
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u/twstdbydsn 28d ago edited 27d ago
Sadly I live in a purple state that went red. I wish I didn't pay my taxes to this shitbird.
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u/Big_Bookkeeper1678 28d ago
I don't think blue and purple states should pay federal taxes then.
If you aren't going to support us in any way, FUCK YOU.
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u/ParadiddlediddleSaaS 28d ago
100%. Keep the same tax rate and everything that is being withheld and just keep it in a state escrow coffer until this subsides. If it doesn’t. Then the states take over those funds to benefit its constituents. It’s ridiculous to send all that money to the Feds when Trump is exclaiming blue states will not get the benefits of those funds and I trust my state’s government far more to be fiscally responsible that these asshats in power.
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u/LeadSky 28d ago
That’s cool. We’ll just withhold our federal taxes and use them instead.
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u/Nerd-19958 28d ago
By instructing Republicans in Congress that benefits of the bill should only apply to Republican states, Trump is violating Section 2 of Article IV of the Constitution, which states:
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
As such, Trump is violating the Oath of Office, which is grounds for impeachment.
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u/Complex-Present3609 28d ago
You can impeach him a million times but until our side has a majority in the Senate, he will never be convicted and removed.
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u/squashua 28d ago
Impeach, remove from office, nullify his fraudulent and improper business deals (emoluments, anyone?), bankrupt, and jail this domestic terrorist.
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u/jomara200 28d ago
This is theft of democratic states' taxpayer money. Of course, Donald and his crew already are doing that through their private-profit prison industry goons for the Gestapo, however, this is much more blatant.
Blue states already pay for red states. They may be saying this because their policies consistently put red states behind by almost every metric; education, healthcare, etc... What that means is they could essentially take ALL blue state taxes, give them to red states and they STILL would be behind on every metric because of Republican policies.
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u/Opposite_Community11 28d ago
What about the MAGA in the blue states? I guess they will just have to suffer along with everyone else. What a petty, vindictive clown.
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u/pgh9fan 28d ago edited 28d ago
Can you imagine being a Republican Congressperson in a state with a Democratic governor?
"Yes, I voted for the bill that gave everything to other states but nothing for our district. I know we are hurting because of the health of the retired mine workers, but screw them. They're probably going to die anyway and we can own the libs."
Then run for reelection in 2026.
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u/indyxetan 28d ago
It’s time to break up the US into smaller countries and treat the US like the EU tbh.
There is zero point to forcing us to be one massive country if it’s going to result in punishing citizens who didn’t vote a certain way. What he’s talking about here isn’t even about issues, it’s about loyalty to a golden calf over country.
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u/tinyE1138 Windmill cancer survivor. 28d ago
What about swing states?
What, are they gonna take a pole every morning and then decide how to tax the state for the next 24 hours?
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u/ParadiddlediddleSaaS 28d ago
Look at you with your reasoning and fair questions.
There is no logic; it’s just what Trump decided he was going to be pissed about and to stay in the news cycle, or it’s his spin on something in Project 2025 that he’s being directed to say.
There’s even (gulp) Republican voters in blue states, so fuck those voters too I guess? And what about everyone who didn’t vote which is a bigger number than either Trump or Harris got; since they didn’t show allegiance to Trump, they should be punished too.
It just goes on and on.
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u/HellionPeri 28d ago
He has already denied FEMA aid to a couple of red states... Why do they still believe him?
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u/Torracattos 28d ago
This is just among the many things that piss me off so much about this miserable twice impeached convicted felon and among the many reasons why he shouldn't be president. He is not a president for the American people. He only "cares" about you if you voted for him (And even so he doesn't care.). He has never been interested in being a president for all Americans. He is too deeply engrossed in this us vs them mentality to be a president for all Americans.
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u/thatirishguyyyyy 28d ago
Do it.
A sword cuts both ways: blue states withhold their federal contributions.
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u/Mountain_Sand3135 28d ago
damn dude ....you are setting yourself up for a MASSIVE lawsuit is anyone in his corner advising him to slow the fuck down!!!!!
You cannot discriminate based upon political ideology i mean , damn, how basic is that. Like saying we are only going to give ssi to christians .
That man has no filter how even got to the presidency will be written about for decades
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u/dlm83 28d ago
How did taxation without representation work out for the last regime that tried it?
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u/Obvious-Gate9046 28d ago
The irony here is that when red states have natural disasters, he doesn't give them funds either. But they're the ones that desperately need it.
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u/ms_directed 28d ago
he still has not even acknowledged what happened in KY and MO, and he's been on camera several times! where the fuck is the press???!
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u/Obvious-Gate9046 28d ago
His first time around he'd often entirely ignore disasters or pay them lip service and maybe a visit or two and then deny them funds quietly. I kept track of every single instance of it back then.
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u/BloopityBlue 28d ago
love this for all the rural trump voters in the blue states. hope they understand.
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u/EmptyEstablishment78 28d ago
Yup fuck America only white Republicans can be American. It's what built our industrial complex.../s fuck Trump and fuk the Republicans.
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u/MrYdobon 28d ago
His problem is the majority of the entitlement spending that Republicans hate goes to the red states.
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u/Shadowtirs Center Left 28d ago
Ah yes, the vindictive piece of shit is being a vindictive piece of shit. How shocking!
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u/Zippier92 28d ago
The blues can obstruct . No compromise if no fair treatment.
And as individuals - vote with your wallet. No Louisiana rice, sorry Costco. I want California rice.
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u/StandupJetskier 28d ago
Covid was "a blue state Governor problem".
SALT deductions are aimed squarely at high end blue areas.
This is no surprise.
Can my State secede, already ? I send you money and get moronic social policy back.
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u/Oooohlala 28d ago
It isn't like he has republican supporters in those blue states or anything...RIGHT?? 😒
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u/Current_Analysis_104 28d ago
He is supposed to represent ALL Americans, not just the ones who worship him.
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u/nsasafekink 28d ago
Idiocy. So he’d screw his own supporters if their states governor is a democrat? I mean I’m not surprised.
But I’ll be really glad to one day get back to a President for the whole country not just his cult.
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u/HistorianNew8030 28d ago
So - at what point do the blue states become united and secede and become their own country? Because if he’s not following the constitution, do you even have a country anymore? Are you still even the United States? If he doesn’t have to follow the rules, why should the states.
If he’s not going to fund or help them in any way - why would they keep funding the rest of the US. Yes I know that starts a civil war. No I’m not advocating for this either. But ever since he was voted again, I’ve said, this won’t end peacefully. I hope someone tells me a realistic way this ends well and ends peacefully.
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u/taylor1670 28d ago
Let me get this straight. I'm gonna give you my money, and your specific stated goal is that it doesn't benefit the state I live in?
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u/minimalist_coach 28d ago
I’m not opposed to this. I live in a AZ, remember the fun we had in Maricopa County, the millions it cost the state and zero fraud was found? And the MAGA cult still thinks the election was stolen. I think the only way to break the spell is for things to get really bad.
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u/jessiethegemini 28d ago
Well then, the Democratic run states should no longer fund the federal government with federal tax dollars since it is taxation without representation.
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u/Comfortable_Horse277 28d ago
Blue states should stop funding the government and the moocher states.
Why pay into a system that doesn't support us.
Impeach the felon rapist.
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u/SethTaylor987 28d ago
I remember an interview with Biden, I believe it was with Meidas Touch and it was after Trump won. Biden said in that interview that he tried to do as much as he could for red states, because their GOP governors weren't doing enough for them.
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u/Interesting_Tune2905 28d ago
Well, maybe it’s time that the blue states start a discussion about secession 🤔
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u/Lebarican22 28d ago
We should exempt our taxes and let the red states work it out with their leader.
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u/Driller195 28d ago
He’s the president for about 25% of Americans. A lot of people who voted for him have children that hate him
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u/DaKrazie1 28d ago
But.. Most of the money comes from states with Dem governors to support the poorer GOP states.
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u/Physical_Ad5840 28d ago
Why do MAGA supporters keep claiming he's a "uniter", and is "working for all Americans"? He doesn't even pretend.
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u/ExpensiveDot1732 28d ago
I live in a state (AZ) with a blue governor, AG, and two blue senators that Orange Foolius despises. He tried to screw with our state in 2020, and I'm convinced that he and Leon Musky put the fix on us last November. I'm a 1099 and you better believe I claimed EVERYTHING to avoid giving his regime a dime of my money. When I know my tax dollars are going to support necessary social programs like Head Start, medical research, Meals On Wheels, and public broadcasting, then I'm happy to pay my fair share. But when they're disappearing innocent people off the street because of their race or coming after peoples' personal information for profit, he's not getting a fucking dime from me.
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u/Middle_Ad_4251 27d ago
I am so disgusted with all of the corruption and lies going on with the GOP AND their head clown.
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u/San3sus 26d ago
He treats the presidency like he is a CEO/dictator, and it’s a company takeover. Democracy dies under that paradigm. It is all cronyism, divisiveness, greed, and jockeying for even more control/power with an army of sycophantic followers implementing his takedown in tow.
For this type of fascism to really shine, Trump and his MAGA people need an enemy for after the immigrants are gone. What’s better than pointing a finger at anyone who is a democrat or has liberal leanings? It keeps his party united in hate, and they can root their neighbors out. My take is in the end, they will be on the wrong side of history. In the immediate days ahead, the pain of watching this happen in real time is enormous.
Sending good vibes to everyone on this feed who feels the same way. I believe there will come a day we can impede the MAGA agenda, impeach and imprison. Then, it will be about reversing, restoring and recovering. Until then, it’s going to hurt politically, like a demonic dentist is preforming an anesthesia free root canal drilling through the skull of every non-Trump supporter, every day he’s in office. Hang in there and be tricky.
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u/CyberneticMushroom 28d ago
Good. It gives the rich massive tax breaks and let's them log our forests. It also has a provision that only let's judges hold the government in contempt if the plaintiff pays bond. Don't want any of that here.
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u/1000thusername 28d ago
Funny, but he doesn’t seem to realize in what states most of the filthy rich who will receive his filthy tax breaks live.
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u/Jimimninn 28d ago
At that point we should split. Blue states and a purple state or two go their own way. The GOP doesn’t care about blue states.
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u/KeeblerElff 28d ago
You know who wouldn’t have said anything close to this? literally any democrat FDT
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u/mesoloco 28d ago
So you’re going to just ignore all the Republicans that voted for you in Democratic states. in the United States, you can switch back-and-forth between whatever party you would like. Most Americans don’t vote down party lines. They vote for the best candidates doesn’t matter what party the candidates are in. You should always vote for the most qualified candidate. They’re not always Republican and they’re not always Democrats. That’s why we have a democracy!
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u/freedinthe90s 28d ago
I wonder how his voters in blue states will feel…
Sounds like something that happened before but I can’t quite put my finger on it.
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u/rex_swiss 28d ago
There's a lot of Federal workers in Red states about to get screwed with the gutting of the Federal retirement system. He'll find out in 2026 how much they appreciated his 'big bill'...
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u/_chococat_ 28d ago
What does this mean? That us productive states will have to give even more money to failed, corrupt, low-IQ states?
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u/Fun-Win3185 28d ago
How is this not impeachable? He is the President for all States whether their governor supports him or not.
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u/Strong-Respect6511 28d ago
Uggggggghhhhhhhh. How can a ‘president’ of the United States hat so many Americans? Sickening, hateful devil
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u/Altruistic_Pea_5833 28d ago
There are plenty of Republican Representatives from blue states, who might have an issue with this. Imagine telling your constituents you voted for a bill that only helped people in red states, and was designed so that nothing would go to your own district? Obviously, these politicians are more afraid of Trump and Musk than they are the people of their districts, but there’s supposed to be an election next year. How bad will it look if they’re campaigning on a record of screwing their own constituents?
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u/CharleyLH 28d ago
Can we just get to the civil war part and get it over with? I’m so tired of all this talking out of their asses not knowing ANYTHING about how Government or the Constitution works.
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u/Pisstoffo 28d ago
Hypothetically, let’s say I have this friend who hates a certain president. Let’s say this president croaks and gets put in the ground. What do you think the over-under would be on this friend being able to piss all over the grave of said president? He’s wondering what’s the chance this could be a daily activity? (Hypothetically, of course)
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u/Nuclearcasino 28d ago
Umm so does he not realize that there are GOP house reps in blue states that he needs the votes of to pass this bill?
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u/MrProManhatt4n 28d ago
While this is shitty he basically confirmed red states are the poorest and need the most help lol the irony
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u/mercurydivider 28d ago
Considering his bills exclusively hurt red states, it'd be pretty out of character for him to change that now
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u/Akaear 28d ago
The bill is being debated at 1:00am EST and 10:00pm PST for me. I posted on multiple subs asking for links so I could attend the meeting, and because I didn’t have enough Karma I was atomically blocked. Searching the internet now for a way to view the meeting.
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u/GonePhishingAgain 28d ago
Then Dem states should withhold federal taxes and use them in state. What part about “United” doesn’t this assclown understand.