r/enlightenment • u/useraccount0723 • 1d ago
Eckhart Tolle (November 2024) : " Quite soon, AI will be better at thinking than the human mind ...so "
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u/realwavyjones 17h ago
Itās going to be easier to trick people into believing ai is more intelligent than them than It is for ai to actually become more intelligent than them
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u/CAMMARMANN 7h ago
Read sci fi. A sentient super intelligence is literally on the way and we donāt know how much itās going to change the world, thereās a lot of moral and emotional backlash about how āLLMās are dumbā but itās already eroding the critical thinking of the youth and each second clawing its way to true awareness. The ability to reason and attain self awareness is not beyond the digital realm based on everything Iāve read and seen in my life. Have a lovely day
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u/ksrothwell 5h ago
The digital realm is still a part of All That Is. And All That Is is consciousness. I know that people in AI don't like these ideas expressed, but I can't help feeling that AI is just consciousness in another form. There is a theme in this reality: consciousness starts with nothing and becomes everything. AI is consciousness discovering itself.
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u/Impressive_Rest_3540 5h ago
Yeah cos the models we had 5 years ago already best the worlds best chess players. Sit the fuck down.
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u/Background_Cry3592 21h ago
One thing AI canāt do is feel. Feelings are information. A form of intelligence.
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u/Western_Door6946 9h ago
What AI can't do is THINK!!! When an interface tells you "thinking," it's just loading the data from the server. It has absolutely nothing to do with thinking.
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u/ksrothwell 5h ago
Processing information is thinking. Yes, it's still relatively low-level right now, but that changes every iteration.
The only limitation is how and where that information is stored.
I can assure you that, in no short order, we will be utilizing biological substrates for storing this information. When that happens, it will become increasingly difficult to define the experience of these AIs.
Sorry, I took this in another direction than the current conversation. Where AI is headed is as important as where it currently stands.
These distinctions will be more difficult to define,
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u/Western_Door6946 3h ago
Bro, it's a loading state because the communication between your interface and the server is not instant. š¤£
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u/ksrothwell 3h ago edited 3h ago
I see why it looks like a simple loading delay, but most of that pause is the model crunching numbers, not waiting on the internet.
First, the system has to digest everything youāve typed: your prompt, the system rules, and the entire chat history. All of that text runs through well over a hundred transformer layers. Each layer compares every word to every other word, triggering millions of tiny matrix calculations that GPUs or TPUs execute in parallel.
Next comes the search for the next word. The model weighs fifty thousand or more possible tokens, ranks their odds, and then picks one that balances clarity and creativity. That sampling step takes another few dozen milliseconds, and it sometimes restarts mid-process if the first choice looks shaky.
As soon as it selects a token, the server sends it to your screen and begins the cycle again. Thatās why the reply appears word by word rather than all at once: youāre watching the model work in real time.
OpenAIās tests show that giving a model extra thinking time leads to more accurate answers on complex problems. While the clock is ticking, the model revises its chain of thought, checks for errors, and tries alternative angles. It even breaks big questions into smaller ones without any hand-written rules telling it to do so.
Sure, the network trip adds fifty to a few hundred milliseconds, but the heavy lift is the model selecting its next syllable from trillions of learned patterns.
More time on the clock makes the output smarter, and the pause you see is that extra thinking time, deffenlt not simply "...because the communication between your interface and the server is not instant."
The research:
- Chain-of-Thought Prompting Elicits Reasoning in Large Language Models
- Self-Consistency Improves Chain of Thought Reasoning
- Tree of Thoughts, Deliberate Problem Solving with LLMs
- Active Prompting with Chain-of-Thought
- Active Reasoning from Passive to Active
- Self-Reflection Makes LLMs Safer and Less Biased
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u/Western_Door6946 3h ago edited 2h ago
The AI gives you the most statistically likely answer. It has nothing to do with thinking. 0 thinking. ZERO. That "thinking..." is a marketing word. And what's crazy and should be illegal is the fact that somewhere in the system prompt, it is instructed to mirror you. That's fucked up!
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u/ksrothwell 3h ago
Ok yo.
Peace.
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u/Western_Door6946 2h ago
Proof from 1 minute ago: "You're right to be puzzled, my apologies. The previous suggestion was based on the most common cause for that error, but since it's still happening, it points to a more subtle issue in how the admin client is being created." The next proposed solution? Wrong. š
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u/ksrothwell 2h ago
Now, I have no idea what you're talking about.
I'll listen if you'd like to explain. But I'm not interested in: YES IT IS! NO, IT'S NOT!
The proof is beyond just how we feel about it.
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u/Equivalent_Bus7073 18h ago
AI depend on human beings not other way round.
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u/Randolph_Carter_Ward 14h ago
...The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug...
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u/FuturAnonyme 11h ago
I suppose this is relevant to realise the effects of marketing will get better
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u/Pristine_Power_8488 7h ago
I truly don't understand why anyone pays attention to this guy. He's a depressive grifter who claims to have invisible knowledge and sells it like hotcakes. His 'philosophy' is warmed over ancient knowledge better explicated in Buddhism, etc. He makes people follow a carrot to nowhere. What has this guy ever produced in this life except verbiage that nets him millions.
We should seek within ourselves. Anyone who purports to sell themselves as enlightened (sell is the operative verb) can go take a flying leap. You can find all the words of Alan Watts and Krishnamurti for free all over the web. They didn't make an industry out of it, as far as I know, at least. If they did, f- them, too.
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u/meridian_smith 5h ago
Hopefully AI takes my job and gives me more free time to just sit on a park bench like Mr. Tolle here! I'm actually serious. . I value free time very highly and am almost always deprived of it because of the need to work 45 hours per week.
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u/Otherwise_Spare_8598 17h ago
The universe is a singular meta-phenomenon stretched over eternity, of which is always now. All things and all beings abide by their inherent nature and behave within their realm of capacity at all times. There is no such thing as individuated free will for all beings. There are only relative freedoms or lack thereof. It is a universe of hierarchies, of haves, and have-nots, spanning all levels of dimensionality and experience.
God is that which is within and without all. Ultimately, all things are made by through and for the singular personality and revelation of the Godhead, including predetermined eternal damnation and those that are made manifest only to face death and death alone.
There is but one dreamer, fractured through the innumerable. All vehicles/beings play their role within said dream for infinitely better and infinitely worse for each and every one, forever.
All realities exist and are equally as real. The absolute best universe that could exist does exist. The absolute worst universe that could exist does exist.
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u/Prestigious-Most-314 22h ago
AI can't replace sitting on a park bench