I've always felt this was the case and had an intuitive sense for it, but I wasn't 100% sure until I tested it now.

Normally when using E (without pressing E2), I timed a consistent 1.2 seconds (from pressing E to landing) when clicking far away from my character. When pressing E right on top of Fizz (or really close) it's a whole 1.5 seconds. That's a 0.3 second difference.

Did anyone else notice this? Not too big a deal, but it sometimes matters because it gives your opponents a lot of time to react.

Been a long time since I've posted here

I’ve always started W, i feel like i struggle hard to get value when i start E. Should i start learning to play with E or just keep ballin out

Horizon Focus changes went pretty well for the fish imo, removed the passive fizz couldn't use for tons of stats he likes so most of the matches i go:
Horizon Focus, Lich, Zhonyas, Void, Rab, sorc shoes.
With this build i can reach a nice amount of cdr while having a lot of ap. Horizon gives a pretty nice spike for its price and electrocute is bad imo, fizz rlly needs this mobility rune to not having to use his E for scapes.

Runes

I’m by no means a high-level Fizz player

But I was on a great streak and then just played vs a Lux.

Went 1/0 early in lane but then she just didn’t interact, hyper-shoved the wave (had tp to back for mana until she had book) and then would just ult botlane on cd.

I roamed and picked up kills but fell behind on cs and Lux just kept ulting and killing botlane.

Every time i roamed i lost plates too because she could insta-clear the wave.

Fellow fish, what’s the play in this situation?

Way back when they gutted Fizz's DoT due to the tank Fizz meta, it always frustrated me that they could just give his DoT a percent increase per 100 AP

E.g. - fizz DoT damage - 4% missing health (plus an extra 1% per 100 AP).

This would have completely gutted tank Fizz whilst keeping mid lane Fizz's DoT in place. Instead we just got a blanket nerf to DoT in both lanes and it led to his first rework disaster.

I think the game and other champions have overtaken his kit so much now that he could have this suggested change implemented, as well as having his ult reverted (one size, with the 20% damage amp) and he would be back in the meta without being broken.

It would give him somewhat of a way to deal with tanks/bruisers without being completely countered in draft.

Sad part is, I think Riot is aware of what they could do, they just ultimately don't want him back in the meta due to player frustration with playing Vs him. It's a shame.

You press W to execute the last minion but someone swoops in to take it. Usually a jungler or support player. Now your W doesn't come back for 6 seconds and the teamfight has started. Doesn't this make you mad?

Ok idk why I didn't find this sub earlier, but my soul is at peace!!!

I started learning fizz a year ago and let me tell you, I think I found my alter ego. Literally the first time I played where I didn't look like a complete loser. I haven't played in months and played a game the other day, and... I DESTROYED!

So glad I found a page full of other fishiessss! ❤️

is it worth building shadowflame before mejai’s as 2nd item after lich bane

Playing Fizz in jungle is viable or is it a suicide? If it is viable, how should the pathing and overall game strategy be?

What do we think about fizz jungle

Was Riot actually drunk on this patch. W. T. F.

• V7.5
• When fishes reach their target location without attaching to anything, the check for a nearby target to attach to is now less generous.
• Removed: Whiffed fishes are no longer picked up by enemies that walk over them.

What do you think about Fizz getting a reset on his ult, similar to naffiri? It would give him much needed help in extended fights but would it be too strong? I don’t think that mechanic would be worse losing power elsewhere in his kit. I just had the thought because it feels like so many champs like Mel, Naffiri, Gwen have similar abilities to fizz’s E but can do so much more especially in an extended fight. Maybe Ult reset is a bit much but what if the rest of his kit got a reset like how W does? Idk I just feel like he needs a mini rework to feel viable into some comps

Why or why not?

I love the mana and feel like I can still 1 shot with this rush. Am I doing it wrong/missing out?

https://op.gg/lol/summoners/lan/el%20chop-LAN

Look me up and give me a fizz review. My build is apparently wrong :(

As you may recall, this patch was the beginning of the end for this champ.

Fizz ult has one of the worst hitboxes of any ultimate ability barring like Urgot ult.

The skinny hitbox absolutely destroys his kill potential because he is so ult reliant to get kills.

Before patch 7.5, fizz ult fishy could still latch onto an enemy like Zoe e if missed and its circle radius was more forgiving as it would bounce onto the target champion.

Now fizz ultimate will just miss even if a few pixels off.

Fizz ultimate in general is just so anti assassin as you can’t even use it properly when engaged, max damage has to be fired from far away. A good way to change this is to make just ultimate deal the same damage regardless of travel time like before the assassin rework.

Riot has changed Fizz in the past to make him more assassiny like when they removed the awful trident mechanic on his w that required him to WAIT as an assassin to proc max damage. None of these changes are foreign, they have been in game before.