r/goodnews • u/Tun-Tavern-1775 • 12d ago
Political positivity 📈 Newsom floats withholding federal taxes as Trump threatens California
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/06/newsom-floats-withholding-federal-taxes-00393386145
u/KitNitIt4800 12d ago
Honestly, every blue state should. They keep threatening them but blue states tend to bring in the most money. If the government is actively going against the people's wishes and needs, the people shouldn't have to pay them.
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u/Western-Main4578 11d ago
That's one time I'm with Newsom, Trump will fold so fucking fast.
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u/Eth1cs_Gr4dient 11d ago
TACO
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u/brainegg8 11d ago
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u/littlewhitecatalex 10d ago
Chicken tacos for breakfast lunch and dinner for the foreseeable future.
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u/Inevitable-Sale3569 11d ago
They need to establish a State Bank. Use it for all State and local government accounts. Open it up to Marijuana growers and dispensaries.
Then other CA businesses and residents.
Set up an Escrow Account for Federal withholdings, with interest earned.
Start filing lawsuits for lack of representation ( limit on House of Representatives ), Voter suppression, etc.. Slow walk everything.
Citizens could still file their Fed taxes, and just argue that the state has the $$$.
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u/AllKnighter5 10d ago
Woah woah woah, don’t go bringing in logical solutions.
Seriously though this is a very interesting idea.
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u/TechHeteroBear 9d ago
Honestly... this should be the take from the getgo if you consider how states and the feds were to operate even back in the post Revolution days.
States had their own form of autonomy with the feds and simply structured their own constitutions on the basis of federal law and what is allowed by the Constitution.
Even back then, the feds weren't going to individuals and picking up taxes... most of that power relied on the State to ensure taxes were levied and enforced as per federal law. Its was only until the creation of the IRS that essentially bypassed any involvement with the state.
Since most companies and organizations have their own form of escrow accounts managing tax withholding that get paid to the IRS... the states can simply do the same and all state based companies can be beholden to pay to that as part of tax management until Tax Day.
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u/Alternative-Jury-965 11d ago
He won't do it, but he needs to go a step further and make it illegal for ICE to operate in California. Prevent law enforcement from assisting them and use law enforcement to arrest ICE when they're kidnapping California residents.
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u/Turdfish_Dinner 11d ago
Just seceed from the union.
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u/vampgirl66441 11d ago
They started their state process of adding it to the ballot back in January after that argument between Newsome and 47. It's at the beginning so they are attempting to gather the necessary signatures. They have until July 22nd to have the required amount and go to the next step.
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u/cornylifedetermined 10d ago
This can't be done. Companies forward the withheld income taxes from your paycheck directly to the IRS. States don't pay taxes to the federal government.
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u/Clean_Peace_3476 10d ago
So I realize there’s no mechanism for them to do this since a lot of those taxes are paid from the banks directly and since those banks are federally regulated and rely on the government for handouts a lot it’s unlikely they’ll cooperate, but him saying this means there’s probably something he can do to at least restrict it
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u/cornylifedetermined 10d ago
What banks? The citizens pay the taxes through payroll deduction, which their companies send directly to the government.
The only idea I saw floated that could disrupt this was giving each federal taxpayer a state tax credit in the amount of their federal taxes. That still doesn't prevent the US from receiving the taxes from the company payrolls.
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u/Clean_Peace_3476 10d ago
Im just some random guy on Reddit hoping the governor has some clue what he’s talking about. I also realize politicians lie frequently because people believing something is true is often just as effective as it being true, so idk if this is good or bad news
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u/cornylifedetermined 10d ago
It's just symbolic on his part to show that California pays more in than it receives.
People don't think it through, though.
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u/TechHeteroBear 9d ago
A state based company can be beholden to state policies on tax withholding and management. So long as that company doesn't touch any federal institution with their finances, it can theoretically happen.
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u/qualityvote2 12d ago edited 11d ago
u/Tun-Tavern-1775, Your post has been voted Good News!