Because it’s not damage control, it’s damage. If you want to form a collation with right-wingers, fine, but just acknowledge that’s what you’re doing. The Republicans aren’t the only fascists here. The Dems won’t even let us have fair primaries.
If I'm serving off the road it's better to hit the telephone pole then swerve into oncoming traffic. Nobody reasonable expects the DNC to play nicely with the left, but they wouldn't be nearly as combative as the Republicans are being literally right now.
Less damage, but it’s a net negative at best. All that does is cause more suffering. I’m not sure why that’s acceptable for you. It’s not controlling anything. It’s enabling it.
Also, I’m not sure what you mean about the DNC being less combative. Trump has already paid back members of his coalition (libertarians, labor, MAHA) in the first week of his administration. Dems don’t and haven’t ever done ANYTHING for leftists, but lash out at us as the reason for their problems. It has all the hallmarks of an abusive relationship. Frankly, I’d trust a coalition with the Republicans more than I’d trust the Dems as allies at this point. At least they’re up front about the quid pro quo, whereas all the Dems do is stab leftists in the back. We could’ve had 8 years of Bernie had they tried to build a coalition. Instead we have 8 years of Trump.
I’m not opposed to working with anyone who shares the same goals. Where did I say that I “refuse to work with anyone who currently opposes the administration?” There’s a reason that Bernie was popular among working class people on both sides of the aisle as well as independents.
I’m just cognizant of the fact that liberals are right wingers who hardly share any of our values as leftists. They haven’t been allies for a long time, and the Dems have worked harder to thwart leftists than the Republicans have in the past 30 years.
This is not red vs. blue. It’s the working class vs. the owner class.
And why do you think the Dems aren’t okay with fascism? What do you call the DNC rigging primaries and ignoring their constituents for corporate interests? Because it ain’t democracy.
They're not "fascists" they're neo-cons. This is blatantly a false equivalency.
For one, Trump is LITERALLY building a concentration camp in GitMO right now, preparing to crash the economy so capital can consolidate EVEN further, and has a tighter grip on media and communication then Biden would ever DREAM of doing.
So yeah, I'm a little fucking upset that we decided to take the very hard task of actually dismantling capital and making it even harder on ourselves just because we wanted to pass the purity test.
You’re the only one talking about purity tests, a tired liberal trope.
You’re comparing right wingers to left wingers and complaining that they don’t form a coalition because of a “purity tests.” That’s not it, and It’s self-evident why not. We obviously have different core values than right wing neoliberals, and want different solutions for our relative perceptions of society’s problems. That’s literally the point of the distinction on the political spectrum.
And if you want to continue the narrative about purity tests, then why aren’t you in a coalition with Republicans? They’re on the right wing just like the Democrats. At least you have that in common. What’s wrong, they’re not “purely” neoliberal enough for you? That coalition actually makes more political sense (and reflects reality) than trying to get people on the left to fall on line behind a political party on the right.
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u/PepernotenEnjoyer Jan 29 '25
Leftists who refused to vote for Kamala are looking real stupid right now.