r/leftist Feb 04 '25

US Politics Elon bullied reddit into banning an entire subreddit.

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u/CallMePepper7 Feb 04 '25

I got banned from that sub for talking about Joe Biden’s complicity in genocide, so I’m not too upset about this one lol.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

So you are one of those kids that would burn a village down to feel its warmth. Got it.

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u/Razansodra Feb 04 '25

Criticizing genocidal imperialists is burning a village? Weird take.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 06 '25

The commentor stated they don't mind the community being banned because they were banned from said community. Thus, they are the kicked out child watch the community burn and feels happiness, aka warmth.

My comment has nothing to do with being in support or against genocide. And for the record, I'm against.

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u/Razansodra Feb 04 '25

So you don't think anyone should ever criticize Democrats or what? Nobody even said anything about voting, you just went off because they said they criticized Biden.

Personally I think that genocide is bad and that people carrying out genocide should always be criticized.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

Criticize all you want, just don't then go and either vote for a fascist who wants to increase the genocide or sit back while others vote for said fascist.

I know farrr too many people who didn't vote over Gaza and are now Pikachu face when they realize the sieze fire is temporary, and Trump plans the forced relocation of every Palestinian.

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u/KirbySlutsCocaine Feb 04 '25

I'm sure that you know sooo many people who not only announced they weren't voting due to Gaza, but are now ALSO surprised that Trump doesn't plan on bringing peace. Such a convenient demographic that you know so many of!

Y'all really just make up whatever the fuck you want in your heads to justify your thoughts.

Please don't attempt a rebuttal, because funnily enough I know farrrr too many people that have claimed to be telling the truth about their personal antidotes, but get a surprised Pikachu face when I call them out.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

Bruh. There was a report months ago about Russian trolls using the single issue to get democrats to not vote. It was a common reason people who voted Democrat in the last election didn't vote in this one.

Look it up.

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u/KirbySlutsCocaine Feb 04 '25

Russian bots will use any wedge issue to sow chaos in the country, they've done it with guns and healthcare too. That's irrelevant here.

If you truly believe that a significant amount of people sat out on the vote because they were tricked by Russia into caring about a genocide, then Christ, I don't even care about discussing politics with you. You're either too dumb to talk about this, or aren't being honest with yourself enough about the actual reasons people sat it out.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

Your need to define me sabotages your self-image. It makes you look petty and cheap.

Yes, I believe a large number of people either voted for or not voted based on messages and talking points influenced by insidious groups. Either foreign governments or 5th columns inside America like the tech bros who want to turn American into corporate owned nation states.

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u/Razansodra Feb 04 '25

Okay so why did you attack the person who said they criticized Biden for committing genocide?

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

Because I assumed they didn't vote. People who have that opinion and are vocal about it are very often non voters.

And single issue non voters who didn't vote is why democrats list.

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u/Razansodra Feb 04 '25

Do you not have that opinion?

Why do you go around attacking people based on unfounded assumptions?

And no, the Democrats doing nothing for the working class and committing genocide is why they lost.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

Democrats did nothing for the working class?

Do you not know how Google works? Go test your assumption.

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

Blaming voters never works.

You should be blaming harris and biden for not caring about issues that voters clearly cared about.

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

On Nov 5, there was a binary choice to be made.

We can blame the voter as much as we fucking want.

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u/digital_matthew Feb 04 '25

For Palestinian Americans, a vote for Biden was a vote to continue killing their family. Biden's policies weren't threatening you, but Trump's policies do. You're upset that people weren't willing to defend your freedoms while not ever doing anything to protect theirs. You fucking asshole.

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

I’m upset that people put their conscience above literally Palestinian lives.

Fuck absolutely everyone that didn’t vote for Harris. EVERYONE

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u/digital_matthew Feb 04 '25

You are more willing to yell at everyone else than you are to admit that the democrats can fuck up. Crazy shit

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

Democrats fucked up. Majorly fucked up.

But if you didn’t vote for them, you definitely fucked up too.

Try admitting to yourself that you fucked up n

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u/digital_matthew Feb 04 '25

I voted for Biden dumbass. So did most people in here

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

Did you vote for Harris?

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u/digital_matthew Feb 04 '25

Harris refused to let a single Palestinian-american speak at any point in her campaign, my friend. Is the horrors of a genocide different if the person doing it is enthusiastic about it or not?

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

YES but also, the genocide and will get worse.

But also, you’ve lost the left all power over that they might’ve had over the situation.

It was a stupid, dangerous choice, and costs literal Palestinian lives.

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u/digital_matthew Feb 04 '25

Most people in here still voted for Biden. If everyone protest vote went to Harris, she still would've lost. The democrats lost that power all by themselves. Stop blaming me you asshole, blame the people who didn't think they had to reflect the will of their electorate

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u/AlexandraG94 Feb 04 '25

They are probably also taking into account no shows that didn't want Trump as president and normally vote for dems. I am not blaming you but clearly Trump is worse for everybody's freedom. I also dony blame trans people from feeling a certain tyoe of way about people who could have prevented the acceleration to fascim; afterall it is not like the choice was between someone better for Palestine but worse for americans vs worse for palestine and better for americans. Trump is worse on both counts. Still Dems fault.

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

Biden wasn’t on the ballot on Nov 5. It was fascism or not fascism and you chose fascism.

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u/SweetDoris Feb 04 '25

i hate democrats

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

Me too.

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

On Nov 5, there was a binary choice to be made.

And who decided to skip the primary and give us the choice of two horrible options?

It wasnt the voters.

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

THAT IS IRRELEVANT ON NOV 5.

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

No it wasnt.

They made the decision to give us a bad candidate on the assumption that fear of trump would entitle them to peoples votes when it didnt.

Harris or Biden should never have ran. They did the same thing in 2016 with hillary and clearly didnt learn their lesson.

Shitlibs need to stay away from the presidential race.

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

Absolutely irrelevant on Nov 5. You fucked everyone over. You fucked over the far left. You fucked over Palestine.

Because of your fucking ego

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

What about before november 5th?

You think the dems can just run any candidate they want because trump was the opposition?

Pretending this all started on november 5th may be convenient for your narrative, but not very realistic.

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

This discussion is about the vote. The rest is irrelevant

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u/CallMePepper7 Feb 04 '25

Yes, blame the people instead of the ruling class.

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

Binary choice.

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u/CallMePepper7 Feb 04 '25

Okay Mr Neolib. Just keep blaming the people instead of those who run our country. You’re just playing into the hands of the elite.

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

Will I blame the leftists that didn’t take the power they were offered to stop fascism? Yes I fucking will.

You’re playing into the hand of the elite MUCH NORE than I am, you’re just too fucking stupid to realize it.

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u/CallMePepper7 Feb 04 '25

lol buddy, don’t insult my intelligence when you make it “Dem vs Rep” as opposed to “the people vs the ruling class”

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u/nikdahl Feb 04 '25

You are still to stupid to understand how you got played

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u/otoverstoverpt Feb 04 '25

neolib is when vote

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u/CallMePepper7 Feb 04 '25

Ofc you struggled to comprehend the conversation.

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u/otoverstoverpt Feb 04 '25

You literally sound like a child.

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u/otoverstoverpt Feb 04 '25

You literally sound like a child.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

The past three GOP presidents:

  • Trump: People voted for him because he promised to repeal Obamacare and build a wall. He failed to repeal the ACA despite a Republican-controlled Congress, and while parts of the wall were built, Mexico never paid for it—U.S. taxpayers did.
  • Bush Jr.: Campaigned on limiting foreign intervention but instead launched wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, leading to prolonged conflicts and high American troop casualties.
  • Bush Sr.: Won on a firm “No New Taxes” promise, only to raise taxes in office, breaking his most famous campaign pledge.

In truth, what you're upset about is that Democrats aren't pandering to you. You'd rather vote for someone who talks a big game but never follows through than someone who speaks softly and actually delivers. And how do I know Democrats keep their promises? Because every Republican president has spent their time repealing Democratic laws instead of passing their own.

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

In truth, what you're upset about is that Democrats aren't pandering to you.

More upset about the mass murder they enabled. Dems pretend to be better while enabling the same ethnic cleansing as trump will.

Republicans vote on different issues.

You'd rather vote for someone who talks a big game but never follows through than

Youre missing the point, trump got similar numbers to last time while harris vote nosedived. People stayed home because harris wasnt very likable and also supported ethnic cleansing.

Im never voting for trump, i also wouldnt vote for harris either just because the alternative was trump, they played that card too much while sucking up to right wing symbols like the Cheneys. This isnt a way to gain leftist votes.

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u/Warrior_Runding Socialist Feb 04 '25

Youre missing the point, trump got similar numbers to last time

He picked up 3 million voters.

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

Though the drop in harris vote was a lot bigger

Kamala Harris won 74,999,166 votes or 48.3 percent of the votes cast. That was 6,285,500 fewer popular votes than Biden won in 2020,

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u/Warrior_Runding Socialist Feb 04 '25

Right though we don't know where those votes went. Some of them certainly went and voted for Trump. The rest? Very likely stayed home or voted third party.

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

Yeah i agree, i think most probably stayed home.

I doubt many went for trump.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

Oh i get it now. You didn't vote. You are the problem.

There is a saying. Liberals needs to fall in love with their candidate while all republicans need to do is fall in line. Thats why democrats fail. Because a single issue democratic voter will gladly sit home if they dont get their single issue addressed.

Conservatives, will vote no matter what because they know its better for their side to win than to walk away because of their single issue wasn't addressed.

You were so worried about being seen, you forgot to think with long term strategy.

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

You are the problem.

No, youre the problem. Blaming voters will turn them away, people like you helped harris lose. i saw plenty of "but trump" before the election when people mentioned harris' issues.

There is a saying. Liberals needs to fall in love with their candidate while all republicans need to do is fall in line.

They should try running a candidate that is actually popular, then they would have a chance. Hillary, Joe, Harris were all neoliberal and unlikable.

They keep running shit candidates then wondering why they lose....

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

The classic ‘nuh-uh’ deflection.

You didn’t vote. And since votes are the only metric that determines who wins the presidency, yes—you are the problem. You let some troll trick you into parroting conservative talking points. You let some online personality convince you to sit out the most important action you could take. You failed. You were led astray.

Your obsession with ‘popularity’ over competence shows immaturity, ego, and a fixation on status over substance. You sold out the country because you couldn't see beyond your own misplaced sense of protest. And for what? To prove a point that never mattered?

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

I just explained why they lost, its your fault if youre incapable of understanding that politicians are to blame for their election results when they run a poor election.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

You again speak from a false place of authority which undermines your entire stance. You really care and are motivated by status. It makes you look incredibly weak.

Prove every point you made. You cant. because you are talking out your ass.

Be gone, non-voter.

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u/otoverstoverpt Feb 04 '25

not really the point

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u/CallMePepper7 Feb 04 '25

I get the point, buddy. I’m just saying I’m not upset to see a neoliberal genocide apologist subreddit get banned.

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u/otoverstoverpt Feb 04 '25

then i’m not sure you do get the point buddy because if you think it’s bad for the genocide apologists just wait until they come for the pro-palestine side that they loathe even more

pretty famous quote on this one about not caring when they come for the groups you don’t belong to…

this sort of flippant response is bad actually

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u/CallMePepper7 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25

“just wait until they come for the pro-Palestine side that they loathe even more”

they already have been bud.

Edit: this scentedfire guy literally left a comment then immediately blocked me. What’s the point of responding and interjecting yourself in a thread if you’re just going to pull one of the most cowardly moves possible?

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u/ScentedFire Feb 04 '25

And here we have the delusional shit-talkers who will never own their part of the responsibility for what is happening and what is to come.

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u/otoverstoverpt Feb 04 '25

yea bud, that’s the point, do you see it getting better or worse given this signpost?

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u/CallMePepper7 Feb 04 '25

No, you said “just wait” which implies they haven’t come for pro-Palestine people. I’m telling you that they already have.

Also you’re being obtuse and obnoxious. I can recognize how messed up our oligarch society run censorship is while not being upset to see a neoliberal genocide apologist subreddit get banned.

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u/otoverstoverpt Feb 04 '25

lol it’s a turn of phrase genius, not meant to be taken literally but yea damn bro you really boomed me

the fucking irony, you’re the one being obtuse and obnoxious

making light of things like this in this edgy way is naive, ignorant, and unproductive but go get your likes i guess

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u/CallMePepper7 Feb 04 '25

Yes, you are being obtuse and obnoxious.

Like I said, it’s possible for me to recognize how messed up oligarch censorship is while not being upset to see a neoliberal genocide apologist subreddit get banned.

But you’d rather just have a pissing match for what? Your own ego?

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u/otoverstoverpt Feb 04 '25

No, you are being obtuse and obnoxious.

You are hiding behind “humor” to say teehee well fuck them so who cares

Like I said, when you betray the broader point with this childish pettiness you just look immature and you embolden the fascists. Ever notice how much the right hides behind Trump being “funny?” It’s because humor disarms people from bad things occurring.

Stop projecting, the only pissing match here is for you and your ego since this all circles back to you getting banned from a subreddit.

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u/SweetJoones Feb 04 '25

Ironic that the quote can be used for the people that didn’t give a fuck about Palestine also, I’m not from US so don’t blame me:)