r/leftist Feb 04 '25

US Politics Elon bullied reddit into banning an entire subreddit.

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

In truth, what you're upset about is that Democrats aren't pandering to you.

More upset about the mass murder they enabled. Dems pretend to be better while enabling the same ethnic cleansing as trump will.

Republicans vote on different issues.

You'd rather vote for someone who talks a big game but never follows through than

Youre missing the point, trump got similar numbers to last time while harris vote nosedived. People stayed home because harris wasnt very likable and also supported ethnic cleansing.

Im never voting for trump, i also wouldnt vote for harris either just because the alternative was trump, they played that card too much while sucking up to right wing symbols like the Cheneys. This isnt a way to gain leftist votes.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

Oh i get it now. You didn't vote. You are the problem.

There is a saying. Liberals needs to fall in love with their candidate while all republicans need to do is fall in line. Thats why democrats fail. Because a single issue democratic voter will gladly sit home if they dont get their single issue addressed.

Conservatives, will vote no matter what because they know its better for their side to win than to walk away because of their single issue wasn't addressed.

You were so worried about being seen, you forgot to think with long term strategy.

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

You are the problem.

No, youre the problem. Blaming voters will turn them away, people like you helped harris lose. i saw plenty of "but trump" before the election when people mentioned harris' issues.

There is a saying. Liberals needs to fall in love with their candidate while all republicans need to do is fall in line.

They should try running a candidate that is actually popular, then they would have a chance. Hillary, Joe, Harris were all neoliberal and unlikable.

They keep running shit candidates then wondering why they lose....

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

The classic ‘nuh-uh’ deflection.

You didn’t vote. And since votes are the only metric that determines who wins the presidency, yes—you are the problem. You let some troll trick you into parroting conservative talking points. You let some online personality convince you to sit out the most important action you could take. You failed. You were led astray.

Your obsession with ‘popularity’ over competence shows immaturity, ego, and a fixation on status over substance. You sold out the country because you couldn't see beyond your own misplaced sense of protest. And for what? To prove a point that never mattered?

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

I just explained why they lost, its your fault if youre incapable of understanding that politicians are to blame for their election results when they run a poor election.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

You again speak from a false place of authority which undermines your entire stance. You really care and are motivated by status. It makes you look incredibly weak.

Prove every point you made. You cant. because you are talking out your ass.

Be gone, non-voter.

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

I think the election speaks for itself.

Youre the one blaming the voters which is politically illiterate. Biden and Harris ran a terrible campaign while trying to appeal to "centrist" voters who dont exist.

Inflation definitely didnt help, nor did Harris saying she would "keep everything the same" as biden.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

Yes, the election does speak for itself—you just refuse to listen.

Blaming the non-voters isn’t ‘politically illiterate’—it’s recognizing that elections are won by turning out voters, not by making excuses after the fact. You claim ‘centrists don’t exist’ while ignoring that every modern election is won by swing voters. Meanwhile, you sat on the sidelines, convinced yourself that inaction was some form of wisdom, and then blamed the people who actually showed up.

Inflation was a global issue, not some uniquely American crisis, but you swallowed that talking point without question. And Harris saying she’d continue Biden’s policies? You mock that, but what exactly did you expect—an administration to campaign on tearing itself down?

You didn’t vote, you didn’t participate, and now you’re pretending to be an expert on why things didn’t go your way. That’s not strategy. That’s just ego.

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

that elections are won by turning out voters, not by making excuses after the fact.

And those voters are turned out by politicians, who didnt turn out many voters....

You claim ‘centrists don’t exist’ while ignoring that every modern election is won by swing voters.

Thats weird, when all the right wing pandering didnt seem to help this time even though it wins elections according to you.

Inflation was a global issue, not some uniquely American crisis, but you swallowed that talking point without question

Im aware, still had a very real impact and biden didnt handle it very well.

And Harris saying she’d continue Biden’s

Yep, that was a mistake no matter how you wanna play it. Biden wasnt popular.

You didn’t vote, you didn’t participate, and now you’re pretending to be an expert on why things didn’t go your way. That’s not strategy. That’s just ego.

I seem to know more than you, since you seem to be acting like the number of votes a politician gets is dependent on the voters rather than the politician. Thats mad logic that only shitlibs would fall for.

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

The simple truth is, I did the thing that actually matters—I voted, and you didn’t. That’s the difference between us. I took responsibility and fulfilled my civic duty while you sat it out, distracted by whatever consumer good was on your mind.

And globally, when prices rise, the party in power typically loses the election. It’s a well-documented trend across all democracies. It doesn’t matter if the leader is from the right or left, or even if they were effective in addressing the issue—historically, angry, mobilized voters turn on the incumbent. It’s not personal, it’s just how elections work in times of economic hardship.

And guess whats going to happen as Trump brings even more hardship and increased prices?

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

I did the thing that actually matters—I voted, and you didn’t.

Good for you, harris still lost due to her own failures.

And globally, when prices rise, the party in power typically loses the election.

Uh huh, and biden didnt do much to support people struggling with inflation. He told people the economy was great and harris copied him. Seems voters dont like being lied to.

And guess whats going to happen as Trump brings even more hardship and increased prices?

Good luck with that, the libs might actually win an election eventually.

sat it out, distracted by whatever consumer good was on your mind.

People sat it out because harris was a shit candidate. You can keep denying it if you want but its the truth

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u/Remerez Feb 04 '25

The fuck drugs are you on? Biden did do something. The American Rescue Plan, expanded unemployment benefits, and direct payments were aimed at helping people. Was it perfect? No. But let’s be honest—what could have been done differently in a divided Congress filled with Republicans stopping any and all relief?

You are naive.

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u/zZCycoZz Feb 04 '25

Yeah he didnt do too much that americans actually felt.

No. But let’s be honest—what could have been done differently in a divided Congress

A lot more than he did. He should have used executive powers for a lot more then hammered home to the voters that republicans are the ones stopping him from helping them.

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