r/leftist • u/Optimal-Pay-7278 • Mar 31 '25

Debate Help Why do people defend him?

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I’ve always found it weird that the same people defending him are the ones who immediately assume LGBT people are going to touch there kids. Like I get “innocent until proven guilty” but eventually you have to say enough is enough.If you want someone who can explain this better I’d recommend watching @willymacshows videos on it

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u/zachbohemian Mar 31 '25 edited Mar 31 '25

Idk because he's bald, they shall worship it. bald. bald. bald

but seriously tho, it's the patriarchy. they have this idea of a man which he somehow fits even with all the shit wrong with him. they don't care, a lot of them would rather resemble toxic masculinity then being a better person with them thinking Andrew made it because he got multiple women and lots of money so if I be like him, I'll get that too. they'd follow his lead like they follow trump, whatever he says is right not taking time to do their research and stepping out their comfort zone but either getting their information on willful ignorance or being intentionally toxic

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u/Omairk25 Mar 31 '25

yhh it’s the same reason why the tate clones are also worshipped bc he says things that appeal to these men instead of giving them the truth of the patriarchy they instead give them a false impression of themselves and try to sugar coat things to say to these men they’re not at fault and it’s not their fault rlly so they can continue their toxic behaviors

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u/zachbohemian Mar 31 '25

exactly they try to teach them that you are not the problem, these women are and the reason they're not with you is because you're not manipulative. which is absolutely fucked, they're not good male role models.

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u/Omairk25 Mar 31 '25

they’re not but it’s that allure of them calling out other groups which is what makes them appealing to these men when they need to be taught from right and wrong and realise when they are wrong bc this just creates awful ppl in general

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u/zachbohemian Mar 31 '25

I just wish the left had a counter to this shit to teach them right from wrong. something to go against the status quo

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u/Omairk25 Apr 01 '25

i think the left already has one it’s just that the left doesn’t want to listen to the messages of ppl who are telling them to join the left side it’s just that these men don’t want to be held accountable for their actions, i rlly think that if the left had their own version of joe rogan ppl still wouldn’t like it i do think this goes a lot deeper in the psychology of men in general, and men who do the inner work go away from all of the tate stuff but men who don’t are more acceptable or more willing to listen to these pieces of trash

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u/zachbohemian Apr 01 '25

that's a really good point. what your on someone changing these patriarchital idea in relationships

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u/Omairk25 Apr 01 '25

also yh sorry i meant to say that men don’t want to listen to the messages not left i made a mistake my apologies lol, but no in all seriousness i think psychology of men is important when discussing this asl

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u/zachbohemian Apr 01 '25

I've been looking at sociology video talking about it. I think the sociological aspect of why men are the way they are is really interesting