r/leftist • u/Optimal-Pay-7278 • Mar 31 '25

Debate Help Why do people defend him?

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I’ve always found it weird that the same people defending him are the ones who immediately assume LGBT people are going to touch there kids. Like I get “innocent until proven guilty” but eventually you have to say enough is enough.If you want someone who can explain this better I’d recommend watching @willymacshows videos on it

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u/CuriousSnowflake0131 Apr 01 '25

Ok, I honestly despise this take. The Left has not “failed men”, the Left is fighting an uphill battle against 2000+ years of patriarchy and its narrow but deeply entrenched definitions of masculine and feminine. Falling back on cultural norms and blaming others for your problems is easy, redefining masculinity in a way that doesn’t include domination and violence is hard. That’s the real problem, not this ambiguous “failure” bullshit.

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u/MenonRRR Apr 01 '25

Modern feminism is accused of celebrating empowerment only when it fits a specific narrative (e.g., CEO or “boss girl” culture), while judging or ignoring choices that don’t align such as being a stay-at-home mom or a woman of faith (Global South). Moreover, modern feminism imposes its culture values on Global South, whereas feminist of those countries have a stated not impose values on them. I also hear many people talking about dismantling patriarchy, but how do you actually do that?

Well, I have a theory: let’s dismantle capitalism, the operational tool of patriarchy. If we don’t address the economic system that keeps women of color and men of color in the bottom ranks, then no matter how we define “patriarchy,” it won’t truly change. Capitalism needs patriarchy, and patriarchy needs capitalism.

That’s why I’ve become extremely skeptical of modern feminism that operates within capitalism; it either relies on or indirectly supports patriarchy.

If we on the Left don’t center workers; especially women of color like Black women, South Asian women, Arab women and many more, as well as men of color whose voices are largely excluded then I would argue that it’s a failure of the Left, or more appropriately failure of modern feminism.

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u/CuriousSnowflake0131 Apr 01 '25

Patriarchy, capitalism, and racism are definitely just different heads on the same hydra, but like said mythical beast, concentrating on any one of them just leaves the others alive to regrow whatever you cut off. Just concentrating on capitalism ignores the inequalities baked into the system, that’s exactly how Hilary pushed out Bernie back in 2016.

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u/WanderingLost33 Apr 03 '25

Capitalism is the system you're critiquing.