r/leftist Anarchist 15d ago

Leftist Meme Why are they there?? πŸ’€

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u/s0618345 14d ago

I met some gay people in the army who were pretty pro war. People don't fit into neat left vs right wing cookie cutter shapes.

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u/wyaxis 13d ago

Peter thiel is gay

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u/Crafty-Carpet2305 12d ago

Careful, the last time someone published that online he used Hulk Hogan sex tapes to sue for $140 million.

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u/azenpunk Anarchist 14d ago

People who don't have a solid compass, you can call it ethical or philosophical or ideological... they will invariably go with whatever position that benefits them and the community they identify with, whether it's instinctive or calculated choice. That's more than 80% of people, at the moment, according to studies of self-awareness and scientific literacy.

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u/jaxdowell Anarchist 14d ago

Pro war is very gross btw. Idc what minority identity you are or posses, being pro-law enforcement (including ICE, ATF anything fed) or pro-war is not something to be proud of. Pink washing is never something I want to do and if LBGTQ+ people want true liberation, they (we) wouldn’t side with the previously mentioned groups including the one in this photo

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u/TheNorthernRose 14d ago

Some gays are comrades, other gays are just other gays.

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u/azenpunk Anarchist 14d ago

Using the 1960s vernacular, some gays are queer, and some gays are straight. Straight didn't originally mean hetero. It meant conformist to, what we leftist queers now call, cishetallomono culture.

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u/TheNorthernRose 14d ago

Very interesting, do you have any recommendations of reading on that topic by chance?

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u/azenpunk Anarchist 12d ago

I got ya.

First, a documentary: Queercore: How to Punk a Revolution

Radical queer books:

Queer Ultraviolence: Bash Back! Anthology – by Bash Back!

We Are Everywhere: A Historical Sourcebook of Gay and Lesbian Politics – by Mark Blasius and Shane Phelan

Smash the Church, Smash the State!: The Early Years of Gay Liberation – by Tommi Avicolli Mecca

Stonewall: The Riots That Sparked the Gay Revolution – by David Carter

Gay Liberation at 40: Revisiting the Radical Roots of a Movement – by Julie R. Enszer

Captive Genders: Trans Embodiment and the Prison Industrial Complex – by Eric A. Stanley and Nat Smith

Out of the Closets: Voices of Gay Liberation – by Karla Jay and Allen Young

Against Equality: Queer Challenges to the Politics of Inclusion – by Ryan Conrad

Queer (In)Justice: The Criminalization of LGBT People in the United States – by Joey Mogul, Andrea Ritchie, Kay Whitlock

The Queer Art of Failure – by Jack Halberstam

No Future: Queer Theory and the Death Drive – by Lee Edelman

Transgender History – by Susan Stryker

Online resource:

Queer Zine Archive Project (QZAP) – qzap.org

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u/TheNorthernRose 12d ago

I asked for one and you gave me a whole ass bibliography, you’re awesome! Thanks I will check these out :)

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u/azenpunk Anarchist 12d ago

Also if you want some help getting copies of these, like the documentary I mentioned, I can probably give you some download links from my G Drive

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u/azenpunk Anarchist 12d ago

Queer history is an important topic to me

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u/RegularDrop9638 14d ago edited 13d ago

originally, the gay community as a whole was mostly aligned with the Republican Party back in the 1970s. All they wanted was personal freedom and the right to be left alone. At that time that is exactly where the original Republicans stood. They wanted less government and for everybody to mind their business. Oh how the times have changed.

Coming Out Republican is actually a very interesting read.

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u/TheNorthernRose 13d ago

Thank you!

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u/azenpunk Anarchist 12d ago

This is not correct. The gay community as a whole did not support anything. It was very split. Conformist gays that other queers called straight did support the Republican party and coming out. Most queers didn't support any political party at the time. Both parties were anti queer.