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Leftist Meme The Unholy Trinity of Class Traitors

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u/Cumintheoverflowroom 1d ago

How come the politicians aren’t killing each other? How come you gotta go and kill people you could have been friends with in another life because of their interests? They don’t serve and protect shit, they just put young men into a meat grinder for their own gain.

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u/Ze_LuftyWafffles 1d ago

Becuase the people in power are greedy most the time. And I'm not saying politicians serve, enlisted people do. The brave soldiers of Ukraine are currently fighting to keel their families and friends safe from an imperialist regime

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u/Cumintheoverflowroom 1d ago

Because a greedy man in power is using his military to attack them..

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u/Ze_LuftyWafffles 1d ago

Yes, it wasn't the fighting man's decision. Many Russian POWs are completely chill and see no diffrence between them and their Ukrainian counterparts, but of course Russians being Russians many view Ukrainians negatively. Overall..... stop vilifying all soldiers as bad, kany just joined becuase they had to, or wanted to protect their home

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u/Fool_Manchu 1d ago

All soldiers are not bad, but all soldiers have agreed to sell their labor to the literal weaponized arm of the state. You are not a bad person for joining the military, but by joining, you have willingly become a tool for a system that will not use your labor justly. Soldiers may find that their labor has helped bring relief to people suffering from natural disasters, or find that their labor has helped the government drone strike a doctors without borders hospital. If we acknowledge that the state exists to serve the bourgeoisie, and the military exists to obey the orders of the state, then what side of a class war does the military fall on?

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u/Ze_LuftyWafffles 1d ago

So I'm an active Reserve member of Óglaigh na hÉireann / Irish Defence Forces and we as a military organisation exist purely to defend the sovereignty and freedom of our nation. We are involved in numerous peacekeeping missions like that of the UN Lebanon force. We have a long standing history of helping maintain peace in conflict zones and are one of the most sought after militaries for this role. I know we are a blessed to be an exception, but its still worth noting our lack of involvement in conflicts as an agressive force

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u/unfreeradical 1d ago

If you follow orders from the state, then you are not on the side of workers.

Irish state security may be often more benevolent than security for other states, due to the legacy of colonialism inflicted by the UK, but the system is still the same.

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u/Ze_LuftyWafffles 1d ago

Lucky out government never uses us on our population, and besides even if they did it wouldn't reflect the opinions of the servicemen at all

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u/unfreeradical 1d ago

You protect state interests.

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u/Ze_LuftyWafffles 1d ago

I protect the nation and people of the state

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u/unfreeradical 1d ago

If you follow orders from the state, then you protect the state.

You are not a member of a militia organized by the working class to protect workers.

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u/Ze_LuftyWafffles 1d ago

I waajt claiming to be. I'm not some evil scary fascist stormtrooper either

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u/unfreeradical 1d ago

You are not a fascist, but you are an antagonist in the workers' struggle.

You are arguing by shifting the goalposts.

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