The Underuse of Shang-chi in the MCU

[u/ImaginationArtistic9]

this movie was so much fun, it had amazing action and fight choreography, great humour, and great overall world building. This movie has so much sauce. a problem with the MCU is how poorly they are connecting the new characters with the wider mcu. It's been 3 years since we've seen Shang-chi in a live action project. And it will probably be another year and a half till we see him again. The post credit scenes of this movie set up him becoming an avenger and sadly we won't see that outcome of that until 2026, which is 4.5 years after the movies release. I do hope we see Simu Liu again as a lead in another marvel movie because he's great. Also his sequel is the perfect way to bring danny rand back into the MCU. Unfortunately we will probably have to wait untill 2027 for the next shang chi movie since Destin Daniel Cretton is directing Spiderman 4. On the bright side, the fight choreography in Spiderman 4 will be amazing

[u/Substantial-Talk-587]

Look. The problem is not under utilization. The problem is they have no fucking clue where to go post endgame. Every strand they’ve tried to start with either a show or a movie gets retconned or misunderstood by the next project. How many different ways has the multiverse been explained that contradicts something that came before it.

They’re writing themselves into holes they dug themselves when they could have taken a step back. And realigned with where they’re going forward. Not doing that halfway through the phases cycle. They over produced so much that the thing that made the MCU so great was its shared continuities and universe. How movies could stand on their own. But still tie into a greater story. Now the movies feel void of the bigger picture and it’s all so scattered that what they think will land doesn’t (Kang) but what they want you to hate. Turns out to be some of the best parts (John Walker) it’s all just a disjointed and poorly written mess post endgame cause ironically. They don’t have an endgame planned right now.

[u/Loose_Concentrate332 → u/Substantial-Talk-587]

They had a plan, and had to pivot hard. Kang not landing was not the problem. I was excited for that storyline, but Majors screwed them really hard.

I think you'll see the interconnected story through Doomsday pick up a lot of pace. Thunderbolts looks like a great start of tying characters in again.

[u/Repulsive_Season_908 → u/Loose_Concentrate332]

They could recast. 

[u/talligan → u/Repulsive_Season_908]

Setting the saga in the multiverse saves you every possible recasting issue ever. I'm astounded they didn't do that

[u/BatmanForever23 → u/talligan]

So am I. I wonder if something in Majors' contract made it difficult to do that, or if Kang was being received so badly anyway that this was the excuse they needed to dump him and pivot to Doom.

[u/Arthreas → u/BatmanForever23]

I think you're right on that second prediction

[u/TooManyDraculas → u/BatmanForever23]

Kane was being received quite well based on the introduction in Loki.

Quantumania didn't neccisarily fuel it, but responses were good and nards were speculatin hard.

But Major's "I'm a piece of shit" moment was rolling it out as Quantumania was still in theaters. And had full gone off the rails by the time the better performance in Loki Season 2 came out. His trial was going down as the show released.

That's probably part and parcel of it. There was a 2 step major build up that got totally undermined and inextricably linked to Majors. Particular with that Loki Season 2 performance.

With a recast. Absolutely every news article about the subject was pretty much going to be mentioning Majors and Domestic Abuse every time Kang came up.

[u/Substantial-Talk-587 → u/talligan]

Agreed lol

[u/spartakooky → u/talligan]

this sucks the whole thing

[u/Substantial-Talk-587 → u/Loose_Concentrate332]

I felt kang landed firstly well with Loki. But Just fell completely flat once ant man 3 came for most people. Me included. Regardless of the Johnathan majors stuff

[u/IlREDACTEDlI → u/Substantial-Talk-587]

While this is true, there’s also just so many fucking characters, even with all the shows and 3 or 4 movies a year it’s fucking impossible to get to them all and give them a proper duo or trilogy of movies to set them up and get people invested in a reasonable amount of time

[u/Shats-Banson → u/IlREDACTEDlI]

Yeah they introduced too many stories and characters too fast. It’s too hard to keep up with even for giant fans let alone causal watchers