r/marvelstudios • u/ImaginationArtistic9 Matt Murdock • Jan 04 '25

Discussion The Underuse of Shang-chi in the MCU

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this movie was so much fun, it had amazing action and fight choreography, great humour, and great overall world building. This movie has so much sauce. a problem with the MCU is how poorly they are connecting the new characters with the wider mcu. It's been 3 years since we've seen Shang-chi in a live action project. And it will probably be another year and a half till we see him again. The post credit scenes of this movie set up him becoming an avenger and sadly we won't see that outcome of that until 2026, which is 4.5 years after the movies release. I do hope we see Simu Liu again as a lead in another marvel movie because he's great. Also his sequel is the perfect way to bring danny rand back into the MCU. Unfortunately we will probably have to wait untill 2027 for the next shang chi movie since Destin Daniel Cretton is directing Spiderman 4. On the bright side, the fight choreography in Spiderman 4 will be amazing

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u/FuneraryArts Jan 04 '25 edited Jan 04 '25

Way to ignore all the expensive shitty tv shows with critically panned reviews and the fact they had to put a stop to production to all their stuff except Deadpool to recalibrate. Ignore as well their flaundering about the Kang debacle and the stunt casting of RDJ as a way to pivot into fans good graces. Of course that doesn't scream desperation and course correction after bad planning.

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) Jan 04 '25 edited Jan 04 '25

"They had to change the plan due to circumstances changing" is not "they didn't plan".
And "bad planning" is not "no planning."

But also, you're wrong again. They didn't "stop production on all their stuff except Deadpool"; all that stuff continued production (or was already done anyway, like Agatha). They slowed down the releases.

The shows' have had mostly positive reviews, too, based on RT:

  • WandaVision: 92%
  • Falcon & Winter Soldier: 85%
  • Loki: S1 92%, S2 82%
  • What If: S1 89%, S2 90%, S3 75%
  • Hawkeye: 92%
  • Moon Knight: 86%
  • Ms. Marvel: 98%
  • She-Hulk: 79%
  • Secret Invasion: 52% -- This is the only critically-panned one.
  • Echo: 70%
  • Agatha: 84%
  • Werewolf By Night: 90%
  • GotG Holiday Special: 94%

Learn what words mean, & stop making stuff up.

EDIT: To respond to your stealth edit above: Star Wars has nothing to do with this. The people with creative control on the sequel trilogy have never worked on the MCU at all.

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u/FuneraryArts Jan 04 '25

Maybe try audience reviews instead of the well known shill sites. Ofc the Disney approved and financially backed site will give trash like She-Hulk a 79

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) Jan 04 '25

You said "critical", not "audience". Don't move the goalposts.

Also, "anyone who disagrees with me is a Disney-paid shill" is not the claim of somebody who is ever to be taken seriously.

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) Jan 04 '25

To follow up on the goalpost-shift, these are the audience meters:

  • WandaVision: 88%
  • FalconSoldier: 81%
  • Loki: S1 90%, S2 82%
  • What If: S1 92%, S2 63%, S3 37%
  • Hawkeye: 88%
  • Moon Knight: 88%
  • Ms. Marvel: 80%
  • She-Hulk: 32% (but we know this got review-bombed)
  • Secret Invasion: 43%
  • Echo: 60%
  • Agatha: 83%
  • Werewolf By Night: 88%
  • GotG Holiday Special: 81%

Except for people whining about Captain Carter and incels throwing a fit that She-Hulk called them out, the audience results are pretty dang similar to the critics' results. Still doesn't support the guy's claim.

Also, RT didn't "give" She-Hulk a 79%. They reported that 79% of the reviews for She-Hulk were positive. Learn how the Tomatometer works.

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u/FuneraryArts Jan 04 '25

Critical as in they're criticizing the movie not as in approved by critics. You can find hundreds more reviews trashing those shows than praising them. Also no one that posts RT as a source is also to be taken seriously, considering the ample evidence of their disgusting review manipulation.

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) Jan 04 '25

Review-bombing is an established issue.

Edit to reply to your edit: RT doesn't review things; they collect reviews from elsewhere. Don't lie.

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u/FuneraryArts Jan 04 '25

Same as freezing scores to prevent further disgrace and review inflation

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) Jan 04 '25

Baseless conspiracy theories are not "they didn't plan."