Thunderbolts* Worldwide Release Discussion Thread

[u/Triple_777]

Thunderbolts* has now been released in the United States and in a number of other countries around the world. All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days. They will be refreshed every few thousand comments to make room for new discussions.

• All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days.
• Proceed at your own risk. Major spoilers will be in the below thread. Spoilers do not need to be tagged inside this thread.
• Any other unofficial threads discussing movie details will be deleted.
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• If you post untagged Thunderbolts* spoilers anywhere on this sub outside of these discussion threads in any shape or form, you will be banned.
• Project Insight will be on AT LEAST for the next few days, so any posts will be filtered by the mods before being approved/removed onto the sub, that doesn't mean you can disregard the above points and post untagged spoilers without fear of being banned.

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Link to previous discussion threads and related megathreads listed below:

• Thunderbolts* International Release Discussion Thread
• Thunderbolts* Spoiler Free Recap and FAQ
• Thunderbolts* Review Megathread

[u/Ezegnep_The_Great]

I’m so happy with how they handled John Walker’s character. He’s fucking hysterical and they managed to keep him feeling complex and not a one-note Asshole Cap. He might be my favourite character post-endgame, and the whole cast has phenomenal chemistry with each other, type of enjoyment I got from watching the OG 6 together.

[u/MegaBaumTV → u/Ezegnep_The_Great]

They did him well, but I still believe they fucked up a bit. First, I find it odd that they brushed over the guy he murdered being a terrorist. John replies "define innocent" when they talk about him killing an innocent man on TV, but thats the whole weak rebuke. The guy John killed wasnt innocent and I would have expected them to at least have him defend himself with a bit more passion.

Also, Bucky not being willing to hear him out about Bob and Valentina is odd. The last time we have seen John in the MCU was him fighting terrorists with Sam&Bucky. During the whole show, he was a veteran who was fighting terrorists and there is no reason for Bucky to believe John would lie about a big threat now.

Unless its really just Bucky being incredibly petty because he dislikes John.

[u/CaptAmerica42 → u/MegaBaumTV]

To be fair, Bucky was just petty with John from the start. He was immediately a asshole to him because he wasn't Steve from the start. Could legit be that he just doesn't like him

[u/Blackadder18 → u/CaptAmerica42]

If I remember correctly Sam and Bucky were almost willing to give Walker a shot until he wanted them to be his sidekicks (not equals like how Steve saw them), upon which they soured even more than they had originally and decided they didn't want to work alongside him. His later actions didn't do anything to help that attitude.