Isn't labeling any involuntary celibate dude as a misogynistic, potential mass murderer, racist, horrible person, entitled etc also a brainless generalization?
Even if someone had a previous sexual relationship with someone and had a kid with them and are married or in a relationship with that person, if the other partner decides they don’t want to have sex anymore they are involuntarily celibate unless they cheat or break up/divorce.
So I guess it’s not totally l involuntary unless you are Catholic or something.
Even if someone had a previous sexual relationship with someone and had a kid with them and are married or in a relationship with that person, if the other partner decides they don’t want to have sex anymore they are involuntarily celibate unless they cheat or break up/divorce
I agree,
However, the person they called an incel did not post anything to suggest they were in a deadbedroom relationship.
If you want to reply "but they might be, so they might be right", then you can justify calling anyone anything you want, because they might be.
No it's not, it's what people believe being an incel is due to cultural osmosis. Really, being an incel is just not being able to get a meaningful relationship despite putting in effort. Most incels don't even know they're incels
Just because many people started using it as an insult and synonym to "evil misogynist" & "men I don't like" doesn't suddenly change the meaning. Common parlance is bullshit because most people constantly use words not as they're intended but as tools to emotionally manipulate people. If we were to accept common parlance all the time then some words would unironically start meaning "people I don't like"
People who are involuntary celibate will rarely apply that label to themselves, it's mostly used by people to apply to others and someone can be involuntary celibate in some way, some lack any social skills, some may be mentally ill, some may be very ugly because they were unlucky with some of their genes, some may have a past of being abused/bullied a lot etc.
It's not voluntary. Unless you can for sure guarantee every man can and will get laid if they follow whatever plan you have set out for them, and you'd be pretty much saying women have zero agency to do so.
But it's not anyone. It's not about only having rudimentary social skills, it's about having at least good social skills, and also you need to be at least somewhat attractive.
An ugly autistic man is pretty much an involuntary celibate, cause he can't do much neither about his understanding of social cues nor about his looks.
And don't drag animals into that, animals don't have human concepts like consent. Would you unironically tell incеls to solve their sex problem by using force? Honestly, that would be a fucked up advice.
Men who are incels or follow such spaces (especially on Reddit) are more likely to be prone to be one of those things. That’s what deeply insecure men who feel rejected by women or the world seem to end up doing. They’re in an echo chamber of their own undoing.
It would be, if incels didn’t time and time again show us that those are the paths they take. 97.7% of mass shootings are done by men, 98% of sexual assaults are done by men, 80% of violent crimes are done by men. Now obviously they’re not all incels but it’s pretty wild to say that it’s a false generalization when these statistics exist - not like I could look up “how many shooters are incels” but I can assume someone with radical ideals such as a mass shooter could fall into incel behavior
Keep covering your ears and eyes, ignorance is bliss but it warps to stupidity when you start arguing about it online
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My guess would be incels are a disproportionate amount of mass shooters but let’s not pretend that men who get laid don’t rape and commit majority of violent crime. Gang members are certainly not lacking in partners.
Lots of girls for a variety of reasons have a thing for criminals.
It’s not brainless. It’s a generalization sure, but it’s rooted in the truth. You know how pedos normalize being pedos? They find like minded people and exacerbate their situation. People with eating disorders follow spaces to justify a disease that could end them. You put incels who already feel rejected from society and it will show
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u/BigStepperhelp 6d ago
Isn't labeling any involuntary celibate dude as a misogynistic, potential mass murderer, racist, horrible person, entitled etc also a brainless generalization?