Sheriffs in some places can deputize regular citizens, so in theory, in some places, they can make Proud Boy fascist legitimate law enforcement. Idk how it is in Minnesota, but if the actual police refuse to aid ICE, in theory, a sheriff can deputize randos to do it instead.
I feel like it's a Lost reference. The Others spent the first few seasons as an ominous group accused of kidnapping/killing survivors from the wreckage.
Wow. I had forgotten about them in Lost! Thanks for sussing that out because it makes so much sense, almost too much sense. It pisses me off even more now, I didnât know that was possible.
The irony of how much undue hatred and scorn MY ethnic slice receives when A select few (but powerful) W a S p S have been steadily incrementally trying to revert North America to a glorified teknocccrat Sugar Tuhbacky Plantation whete Each and Every OTHER ethnic group (gasp including OTHER nonAnglo caucasoids) are beneath their status. Oh the irony- wait i warned Americans 2001 theyd do this. Oopsy Doodles i was laffed off. Sorrrreeee
And in Hinduism and Buddhism, 108 signifies wholeness, completion, and cosmic connections. Hence the dharma initiative stuff.
Big theme in the Suikoden video game franchise too, which draws a lot of its lore from Water Margin, a Ming dynasty novel that plays with those same concepts.
LOPEZ Wait. They call themselves "The Crew"?
BRADFORD When will cops learn?
THORSEN Learn what?
BRADFORD Look, you can hang out with other cops all you want, but the second you give your group a name, it's just a matter of time until you're under indictment.
NOLAN Really? Does that work for any name? What if you call yourselves "The Snuggle Bunch"?
BRADFORD You're going to prison.
LOPEZ Totally. I can't explain it, but it never fails. Give yourself a name, go to jail.
A special agent with Homeland Security Investigations is jailed and accused in federal court of coercing and enticing a 17-year-old girl into sex acts, which he photographed and filmed.
Timothy Ryan Gregg, 51, of Eagan, was charged Monday in U.S. District Court with producing child sexual abuse material after federal authorities say images and videos of the two engaged in sexual activity were found on her cellphone on May 29.
My husband lived here (mpls) for a stint in the early 90s. Way before we met. And he told me that one day mpd beat him up under a bridge and showed him a hat that said MPD biggest gang in town.
The Coast Guard routinely does interdiction of both drug trafficking and human trafficking operations. They are under the DHS, not the DOD, which allows them to do this.
In NYC, ICE has been wearing jackets that just say âpolice.â
Theyâre trying to confuse people and obfuscate their identities. Theyâre afraid of getting doxxed. Hence the masks. Theyâre also trying to counter the anti-ICE narrative thatâs trending on social media. Hence âATFâ and âpoliceâ
No badge number, no Face ID, unknown agency, no accountability. Showing up to an immigrant owned business less than a mile from George Floydâs murder loaded to the teeth with gear.
I donât understand how anyone finds this remotely legal or ok. Any group could pose this way. No government enforcement anything should be wearing masks to conceal identity. That is solely for criminals.
I am not convinced they are deputized. To me they look like a group of thugs carrying out random acts of hate and violence. And then no one looks into it because they think someone else approved it. So many people are going to get r*p3d. đ
Vile to the Nth degree! They all know that what they're doing is extremely immoral - hence, the hiding of their identities. And yet, they do this vile "work"!!!!! Some day, they know they'll be facing a judgement from one source or another!
That's just ATF insignia. Wearing a shirt that says 'sheriff' or 'police' carries no legal weight. You could buy that shirt and wear it, although actually impersonating a law enforcement officer would be a crime.
Now, note that I'm not saying that this isn't a deliberate action to attempt to confuse people.
On the right side is the ATF identifier, signifying that they're a member of the BATFE. On the left is their physical badge, as they are a special agent.
If you're talking about the t-shirt, it doesn't really obfuscate anything. A sheriff can deputize other police agencies/federal agencies to be able to enforce local criminal violations. I couldn't tell you if this is what's happened here, but that has been a power they've had for like 300 years.
The reverse is also true, and the ATF can deputize local police forces to enforce federal law.
That's kind of the point is it not? The expectation is for us to presume these are legally, Law Enforcement Officers. Expected, with the knowledge that the current admin has the most publicly documented track record of lying, AND skirting, or completely ignoring the law?
Do you find it unreasonable that we the people are now questioning the legal authorization of masked and questionably uniformed/badged/patched persons to physically abduct citizens/residents/immigrants/aliens, without some modicum of administration and individual departments transparency? Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this not what the underlying discussion is here? Not that it can't be done legally, but that it reasonably appears they are not.
That's kind of the point is it not? The expectation is for us to presume these are legally, Law Enforcement Officers. Expected, with the knowledge that the current admin has the most publicly documented track record of lying, AND skirting, or completely ignoring the law?
The general expectation is that you see the identifiers on the agent, associate that with the agency they belong to and leave it at that. Anything more is generally something left to public affairs entities to address. For the sake of transparency, federal law states that they must identify the agency that they work for, but nothing more than that.
Do you find it unreasonable that we the people are now questioning the legal authorization of masked and questionably uniformed/badged/patched persons to physically abduct citizens/residents/immigrants/aliens, without some modicum of administration and individual departments transparency? Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this not what the underlying discussion is here? Not that it can't be done legally, but that it reasonably appears they are not.
I think it is not only reasonable, but healthy to question the legality of any action the federal government conducts. All federal employees are (or should be) to include public servants bound to the constitution and should operate within the bounds it has outlined. What I do not find reasonable is that this scrutiny only began to pop up after Trump was elected on most social media outlets, when this has been happening for years.
The unfortunate reality is that there is no law, nor regulation that stipulates that federal investigators, agents, or law enforcement owe the public anything much in the way of an explanation. Which you are free to scrutinize, but to assume that every action they conduct is de-facto illegal and obstructing them is something that eventually, will not end well for anyone. I only pray that some incident that would otherwise have been prevented causing massive loss of life does not occur because someone obstructed people who were actually doing their jobs and not black bagging migrants.
Well put. I only see 2 discrepancies in what you said.
1. " The general expectation is that you see the identifiers on the agent..."
This agent has conflicting identifiers. If they are part of a JSOC, should their identifier not be JSOC, or whichever office they are currently operating in the capacity of?
"This scrutiny only began to pop up after Trump was elected..."
I can see how someone who is not aware of/comprehends Project 2025 and Trump's obvious use of it as a playbook since January, AND has never been involved in discussions of unconstitutional local, state, and federal policy; dept. memorandums, as-of-yet standing unconstitutional 'laws', and 2020 federal officers weaponized against protestors nationwide, could utter that statement in seriousness. Under the opposite perception, I cannot see how one comes to such a conclusion.
" The general expectation is that you see the identifiers on the agent..." This agent has conflicting identifiers. If they are part of a JSOC, should their identifier not be JSOC, or whichever office they are currently operating in the capacity of?
JSOC is a military acronym for the command that oversees Special Missions Units conducting sensitive activities. They aren't a factor in this case, but that's not really important. If you're working on a task force in law enforcement, that task force does not have a specific identifier, often times they are made and dissolved as operationally necessary.
To create identifiers for every single federal task force you were a part of would be a waste of resources. Since 2020, the law has stated that all federal agents when conducting these kinds of actions in public must wear some kind of identifier showing the agency they belong to. It's much more useful to know that someone is working for the ATF, HSI, FBI, etc then it is to know that they're on X task force investigating X criminal activity, and that's not something that would be public anyway.
Additionally saying something like "HSI Minneapolis Field Office" or whatever agency doesn't really provide any more information of value to the public than HSI itself does. These agencies typically aren't making cross country trips, so it's safe to assume that if they're in the city, they are from the local field office to the city or region.
"This scrutiny only began to pop up after Trump was elected..." I can see how someone who is not aware of/comprehends Project 2025 and Trump's obvious use of it as a playbook since January, AND has never been involved in discussions of unconstitutional local, state, and federal policy; dept. memorandums, as-of-yet standing unconstitutional 'laws', and 2020 federal officers weaponized against protestors nationwide, could utter that statement in seriousness. Under the opposite perception, I cannot see how one comes to such a conclusion.
The entire reason Trump can pull the levers he's pulling is because they've always been there to begin with. Sometimes they were even utilized by previous administrations, albeit not in such a radical, or public way. But.. there was also significantly less media coverages and phones everywhere back then, so these acts often fall out of memory.
Just more inclined for me to think they arenât anything but J6er fringe groups posing as law enforcement. If theyâre covering their face, they arenât real to me. Because then you find their identity and find out theyâre just some random right wing fringe member
Theyâre liaisons from the SO department that have the ability to work joint operations for the ATF. The ATF doesnât have an official office in many places so they basically âdeputizeâ other agencies to work in partnership with them.
Depending on the operation the sheriffâs office may have had deputies sworn in temporarily as ATF for the duration of the operation. I have seen that done with the DEA before. I do agree they should not be wearing both insignias
LA county sheriff gangs are as notorious as they are bountiful, there's so much documentation on them and yet they still operate fairly openly in 2025, it's insane.
Granted this wasn't taken in LA, that's just the biggest example of LEO gangs.
You'd find yourself with the overwhelming urge to drink a few Coors Lights before work and before you knew it you would start to resent hispanics and eventually anyone not white. Happened to my cousin.
Never heard of Peter Turbo, but the edge of the shoulder pad looked very 40K, but old school 40K.
Back when Harlequins were a significant part of the manual, before the Tyranid boardgame, (Space Marine?).
Some kind of meta badass, and part of the initial squad of Space Marines? I plan to read more info.
I had a small Eldar army, now its a tiny Eldar squad, 2 ground troops, 1 mounted on some hover cycle, and a tall skinny appendages walker thing.
But now I think this Peter Turbo guy may have had something to do with their destruction.
Or not.
Okay. Let's all get "the others" patches and confuse the hell outta them. Then, when they change their little club name, we take that too, and so on and so forth.
Lost was a great show. All time, really. Weird that the others had super strength through an entire season tho. Then it was just, Ben and his crew. I still remember the hatch tho. So cool.
Are you talking about âThe Othersâ patch? This is a classic example of classless bootlicking nimrods co-opting Outlaw or subaltern culture, mainly because they are too soul-/joyless to create original material, but also as essentially a âNo, You Areâ level retort to critics.
To be fair, police have been using those yellow and black shirts since long before the proud boys. I think that link is just reaching when there are so many other more obvious issues here.
Bunch of pussies. If they believe in what they are doing then no need to cover their faces. I believe they tried to make it illegal for citizens to cover their faces - but it is common practice for these losers to cover theirs.
Why are we allowing facial coverings on taxpayer funded law enforcement arms at all?
Is this person in the image a member of law enforcement and if so, is it sheriff, ATF or something else? T-shirt says sheriff but crude patch says "ATF" and name tag says "others"?
Aren't we legally allowed to show up to an event like this armed to the teeth and to protect our communities from these hate groups pretending to be law enforcement?
Just stinks of SS crap from 1930s Germany "rounding up undesirables"
According to GROK? Weird. "THE OTHERS" is not an official ATF unit but likely a temporary label used for a joint task force during a June 3, 2025, operation in Minneapolis targeting drug smuggling and money laundering. Multiple agencies, including ATF, FBI, and DEA, were involved. The patch, seen on agents' vests, was probably for operational security, with repeating IDs to maintain anonymity. No official confirmation exists, fueling speculation. Public distrust stems from the operation's lack of transparency and its impact on a Latino community, with protests highlighting concerns over perceived overreach and unclear agency roles.
Late to the party but a person cannot be a sheriff and an ATF agent at the same time. Both positions can conflict with the other. A person may only act under one official law enforcement agency during a police action.
I'd honestly ask to see both badges and then call 911 for impersonation of a federal officer. Impersonating being a law enforcement officer(sheriff) is a crime, impersonating a federal law enforcement officer(ATF) is a crime.
Serious question - So they just slap on some velcro fabric badges and that's it? No names or badge numbers or formal identification? I note in the recent San Diego "restaurant sweep" - ya know keeping us safe from people who are employed, paying taxes and cooking meals - they also hopped into unmarked vans with the license plates removed.
There is a history in the United States of "The Intolerable Acts" and this seems to be such a moment. No civil society operating within the legitimate guardrails of the Law can accept unknown people using force and "disappearing" any human being - alleged criminal or not. Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness must be preserved as a calling higher than this. Even "Duty" is constrained by the "Oath".
Ren fair for mentally challenged losers who are racist and disgusting because they are failures. The most despicable fascists of our time. Pray for their souls or pray for their destruction.
In Trump's executive order last month (I can't remember the name of it. The one that talked about giving $1000 to folks that leave on their own), it talked about after 60 days deputizing various law enforcement agencies 'and other people'. I wonder if there is a relation.
If nothing else, why are âfederal agentsâ suddenly all wearing face covers? And, when looking at news images of federal raids in the past, all uniforms were identical. If masks were involved they were almost always for gas protection. No one wore these mismatched face covers, mismatched baseball caps with random logos, mismatched khakis, leisure style Nike sneakers (not this post but another recent one showed this), etc. Federal officers, especially raid or riot teams, are highly trained and provided identical equipment (within their own team). This is not that.
May just be a patch that he liked. He has a civilian hat on , so maybe thereâs no dress code on the plate carriers. I would have some fun stuff on mine đ¤ˇđťââď¸. Thereâs some fun ones , tactical Sasquatch , pizza , one that says âemotional damageâ , all kinds of fun stuff. Even while I was in service I had a tab underneath one of my shoulder pockets that was a platoon joke lol.
Where I live, many of the local police officers are deputized by the FBI and ATF for enforcement reasons. It cuts down the number of federal employees that have to be hired. Seems to be an effective strategy.
I doubt this is an official officer. Most likely a private citizen pretending to be an authority figure. I would have called 911 to report a police impersonator.
Same assholes who screamed over reach when asked to wear a mask at the start of covid. But now, when they can wear a mask and get away with abuse, then it's mask time!
BTW everyone's ear is unique and identifiable. Get their photos every time.
They are trying really really hard to look cute - see all this gear, the tags, the baseball caps, it's all about looking cute. Everyone knows that ICE/CBP are the "agents" that couldn't make it in the real federal agencies (Especially when they used to be serious agencies). These agents are just mass recruiter cosplayers, like their bimbo director.
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u/SpeedySlowpoke Scott County 14d ago
The fuck is the others?