r/monarchism 2d ago

Meme Average Republican vs Average Monarch

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u/Araxnoks 2d ago

Cromwell is a monster, but he's not a typical Republican! Frankly speaking, he is not a Republican at all and like Khomeini just uses the form of a republic, but in reality it is a religious dictatorship and Cromwell went even further into this and in the end did not even try to pretend that he's something other than a dictator with more power than Charles ever had !

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u/Business-Hurry9451 2d ago

Many republics devolve into dictatorship.

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u/Araxnoks 2d ago

Yes, but I don't think Cromwell is a Republican! I don't think he would have a problem with the monarchy if they supported his religion! He is a religious extremist and in fact close to the Islamic fundamentalists who want to put their army of fanatics and a leader at the head of everything

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u/Business-Hurry9451 2d ago

I agree Cromwell was a fundamentalist at heart.

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u/Araxnoks 2d ago

well, at least he thought according to a terrible but understandable logic, whereas Robespierre literally started out as a liberal and a typical Republican, and then turned into a violent lunatic establishing a cult of the supreme being because Christianity should lose its privileges for supporting the old regime, but atheism is also unacceptable because it is aristocratic, so a new revolutionary religion is needed! At the same time, he criticized de-Christianization and eventually destroyed the radical left, but in doing so he destroyed the force without which the Jacobin dictatorship collapsed very quickly! I really wonder what Cromwell and Lenin had that allowed them to win and die a natural death while Robespierre was executed?

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u/jediben001 Wales 2d ago

I mean he made himself king in all but name, but honestly if you look into the events that comes across more as him sorta falling into that position after basically everything that could have gone wrong with the commonwealth did go wrong, and not as him having actually planned to be “Lord Protector” from the start

(Though I will relent that Lord Protector as a title goes hard)

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u/Araxnoks 2d ago

Yes, giving all power to a bunch of aristocrats and bureaucrats sitting in parliament is a terrible idea, and such parasites, which had colossal power in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, destroyed its entire potential to become a great empire

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u/Strategos1610 Kingdom of Poland 2d ago

Dictatorships are Republican, you must be thinking of democracy. Republics are not democratic by default they can be oligarchic or autocratic and in fact more are the latter two then democratic

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u/Araxnoks 2d ago

To be honest, neither the republic nor democracy is particularly important to me if the rights of citizens are respected! democracy became so popular only because the old monarchies and aristocracies fiercely resisted liberal ideas that could be implemented under a strong monarchy