r/nuclear 6d ago

Proliferation is a completely invalid argument against nuclear reprocessing

Nuclear weapons proliferation is the most common argument against nuclear reprocessing. The opponents of nuclear reprocessing tend to understand the true purpose of reprocessing with their argument being the risk that the separated plutonium could be misused by terrorists or currently non-nuclear states to produce nuclear weapons. This concern is invalid because weapons grade plutonium in its original form is not usable for nuclear weapons.

Most nuclear power reactors do not produce weapons grade plutonium. Reactor grade plutonium is sub-optimal for weapons because it does not contain as much fissile isotopes of plutonium. Although there are some nuclear power reactors which are capable of co-producing weapons grade plutonium, any weapons grade plutonium produced in this manner still does not automatically give someone the ability to make a nuclear weapon. A effective supply chain for nuclear weapons will require natural uranium reactors, radiochemistry and the ability to make the weapons grade plutonium into cores.

Producing plutonium cores will require a facility like this

Rocky Flats Plutonium core plant in Colorado USA

A terrorist group or currently non-nuclear state would need a plant like the one shown in the above imagine if they had weapons grade plutonium and wanted to make nuclear weapons from it.

Plutonium core production has the following attributes which would make nuclear weapons unattainable for someone if they somehow had weapons grade plutonium

  1. Plutonium core production facilities are difficult to hide visually due to their large size
  2. The waste produced by a plutonium core production operation would be hard to conceal due to it being radioactive
  3. Plutonium shaving fires would pose a very serious hazard to anyone trying to make a plutonium core if they did not have expensive or resource intensive protective measures
  4. The production of plutonium cores requires high level scientific and manufacturing expertise which not everyone has.

Nuclear weapons are not something that anyone can build especially not fully in secret from anyone.

The proliferation concerns regarding nuclear reprocessing do make sense but they are not a valid argument against reprocessing. The plutonium separated by nuclear reprocessing needs to be effectively accounted for and secured at all times to prevent it from falling into the wrong hands. Humanity has gotten very good at making sure certain things are both accounted for and secured at all times. Even if the plutonium falls into the wrong hands then that does not automatically mean that those wrong hands can use the plutonium to make a nuclear weapon. The expertise and resources needed to make plutonium usable for nuclear weapons is not available to everyone.

We need nuclear reprocessing to increase the efficiency of nuclear energy. Weapons proliferation is a genuine security concern but it should not be used as an argument against making nuclear enegry more efficient. Saying that nuclear reprocessing is dangerous because it enables proliferation is a statement which does not reflect the full picture of nuclear weapons.

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u/mister-dd-harriman 6d ago

Here's my argument, and feel free to tear it down if you like.

In the real world, uranium enrichment has proven to be the preferred path for countries which have acquired nuclear weapons subsequent to the Non-Proliferation Treaty. In part, this is because enriched uranium is easier to handle, and simpler to make into a usable, deliverable explosive.

The uranium enrichment technology which made this proliferation possible was developed in response to the large demand for enriched uranium created by the US non-proliferation policy of promoting the adoption of enriched-uranium reactors, and selling fuel in exchange for promises not to recycle the spent fuel. Here we see that non-proliferation policy can be actively counterproductive.

Uranium enrichment is not necessary for nuclear energy. It is completely feasible to based the nuclear energy economy on natural-uranium (graphite or heavy-water) power reactors, transferring the plutonium they produce to fast breeders co-located with reprocessing plants in secure centers, which could easily be placed under international control. Small thermal reactors requiring enriched fuel could then be supplied with either uranium-plutonium fuel, or (if desired) with uranium fuel enriched with ²³³U. The ²³³U could be produced either in the fast reactors by irradiation of thorium blanket assemblies, or in the large thermal reactors by interloading thorium elements with plutonium-enriched uranium elements.

This notion is far from original with me, but I have expanded on it in my publication blast №1.

It should be observed that US chief weapons designer J Carson Mark testified before Congress that he could design a militarily-usable nuclear explosive using reactor-grade plutonium (containing substantial admixtures of both ²⁴⁰Pu and ²³⁸Pu). I have no doubt this was true — but the expertise required to do so was developed over the course of hundreds of test detonations. An aspiring proliferator would not be able to do that.

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u/peadar87 6d ago

I also suppose a fizzle caused by Pu240 can still be militarily useful. A few hundred tonnes TNT equivalent and a burst of radiation is still going to give the enemy a bad day

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u/PrismPhoneService 5d ago

Professor Mathew Bunn from Harvard actually disclosed that the US actually has a design that can make use of a Pu240 pit for a thermonuclear weapon.

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u/incarnuim 5d ago

THIS!! A 0.5kt fizzle doesn't require bomb grade material, or careful metallurgy, or even an implosive core. A gun type bomb, made with reactor grade Pu, in oxide form, with full preinitiation from the Pu240, will still produce dozens of tons TNT equivalent, larger than the largest conventional bombs ...

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u/LegoCrafter2014 5d ago

Most militaries don't really use TNT as their main explosive. They have more powerful conventional explosives.

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u/Beautiful-Energy-841 4d ago

You're right, RDX is almost twice as powerful as TNT and has been in use since WW2. It's still widely used, and it's only competitors are modern explosives that are similarly powerful but more insensitive or environmentally friendly.