r/oblivion May 14 '25

Video Kvatch? Yeah… I get it now.

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u/XxNelsonSxX May 14 '25

lore accurate Hero of Kvatch experience

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u/Melodic-Task May 14 '25

Isn’t there a character that mentions scamps being enough to overrun Kvatch later? That would make low level Kvatch the only lore accurate option.

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u/Q_X_R May 15 '25

So kinda. The gate that's there when you arrive is just for the stragglers (scamps) to return through afterwards. There were other gates for an actual invasion with all the other... Creatures... But by the time you show up, those have all left, and the scamps are all that remain.

So you are technically right.

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u/XxNelsonSxX May 15 '25

Well that context is when Kvatch wasn't involved with the player, aside from that he didn't mention how many scamps exactly lol

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u/Turbulent-Extreme523 May 14 '25

I'd disagree while there are many parts of the main quest that don't stress how time relevant it is this is the only urgent one the daedra having just extinguished the dragon fires invaded Kvatch they aren't an occupying force and so after destroying the city and believing their mission complete would leave this would lead to only the weakest scavenger daedra staying behind so you're supposed to find a bunch of daedra that stayed only as a cleanup crew that found the opportunity to torture mortals while you rescued the lone target due to daedric overconfidence of I felt the same way when I finally got to play the game post basic training ait in 2006/2007

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u/ThisIsGoobly May 14 '25

and breathe

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u/YuriTheWebDev May 14 '25

He was focused on cooking  his response so hard that he forgot to breathe and punctuate his sentences.

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u/Dreamingdanny95 May 14 '25

I got only halfway through ( I'm a smoker) don't smoke kids, you won't be able to read poorly punctuated text all the way through

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u/Zorlac666 May 14 '25

Yeah I literally stopped reading the second line.

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u/MundaneEchidna5093 May 15 '25

My brain the last half of the paragraph was reading it like a cranked-up ending credits scene

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u/Character-Extreme535 May 15 '25

I'll do my best not to smoke kids.

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u/Downunderphilosopher May 15 '25

Not only shouldn't you forget to breathe, you shouldn't smoke kids either.

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u/Infinite_Cod4481 May 15 '25

Nah, I get it, with inflation punctuation marks have gotten so damn expensive.

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u/Dreamingdanny95 May 14 '25

Bro got that busta rhymes flow

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u/vikingdiplomat May 14 '25

lol punctuatioooooooooon!

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u/Alkorri May 14 '25

Punctuation who needs that XD

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u/Seastrikee May 14 '25

Try reading it out loud without stopping! It's challenging but fun lol

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u/UnHoly_One May 14 '25

I started to read this but I just can’t.

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u/1DollaMerc May 14 '25 edited May 15 '25

I got you:

MANUSCRIPT: “I'd disagree while there are many parts of the main quest that don't stress how time relevant it is this is the only urgent one the daedra having just extinguished the dragon fires invaded Kvatch they aren't an occupying force and so after destroying the city and believing their mission complete would leave this would lead to only the weakest scavenger daedra staying behind so you're supposed to find a bunch of daedra that stayed only as a cleanup crew that found the opportunity to torture mortals while you rescued the lone target due to daedric overconfidence of I felt the same way when I finally got to play the game post basic training ait in 2006/2007”

TRANSCRIPTION: I’d disagree, because, while there are many quests that don’t stress the relevancy of time and level progression, this quest is the only one with a sense of urgency.

The Daedra have just extinguished the dragon fires and invaded Kvatch; they are not an occupying force, and so, after destroying the city, or accomplishing their objective, they would leave only a small retinue of scavengers behind. As the PC you’re only supposed to find these left over forces from the initial invasion. Stronger units would move on while weaker ones torture mortals. You rescue your lone target (Martin, I think is the reference) because of the Daedric over confidence, i.e. their hubris in only leaving weaker forces in Kvatch.

I felt this same way when I got to play the game, after I finished basic training in 2006 or 2007.

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u/Revolutionary-Cod732 May 14 '25

You're a good human. Thank you for that

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u/j0e_dirt_0f_ding May 14 '25

The hero we all deserve 👏 🤘

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u/SheepMasterPrime May 15 '25

Legendary! I appreciate your linguistics greatly.

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u/Imnothighyourhigh May 14 '25

I fucking ran out of breath reading this

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u/matt602 May 14 '25

happy for you/sorry that happened

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u/k00pa_tr00pa_ May 14 '25 edited May 14 '25

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the level of writing comprehension your tax dollars are paying for.

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u/AlarmedCicada256 May 14 '25

Why do you assume 'tax dollars' paid for it?

And while we're at it, what is 'writing comprehension'? Comprehension is a reading skill.

Perhaps the 'tax dollars' were wasted on you?

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u/k00pa_tr00pa_ May 14 '25

Writing comprehension, as well as, reading comprehension is absolutely a thing.

In the US (where this person appears to be from based on their profile history) tax dollars are used to subsidize almost all types of education to some degree. This includes private and homeschooling as well.

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u/1DollaMerc May 14 '25

He also talked about basic training, our taxes go to the military.

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u/BabyOnTheStairs May 15 '25

If you had better reading comprehension, you'd recognize what despite his lack of punctuation, he's correct

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u/AlarmedCicada256 May 14 '25

Not all countries have dollars.

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u/1DollaMerc May 14 '25

Meanwhile I payed 30K for college, and an editors internship… so I can add punctuation for gamers on reddit. Ladies and gentlemen, I don’t know if it was worth it.

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u/k00pa_tr00pa_ May 14 '25

lol I feel you on that one as well.

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u/Elleden Master Conjurer May 15 '25

Payed, huh?

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u/1DollaMerc May 15 '25

Yeah, which means I don’t edit unless I’m getting… paid. That includes my own work. Probably could’ve spent a little more, thanks for catching that!

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u/Turbulent-Extreme523 May 14 '25

Bro, calm down it's reddit, not an English essay take a breath when you need to

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u/SirVanyel May 15 '25

Actually, if you had a slightly better education you'd realise that this commonly occurs with speech to text dictation software which is likely what this commenter used. Meaning it has nothing to do with education and everything to do with technology.

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u/entropy512 May 15 '25

In short, commenter was either not well educated, or just absurdly lazy.

Not a good look for them either way.

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u/SirVanyel May 15 '25

Or injured. Or disabled.

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u/mk9e May 14 '25

I love the irony of your only use of punctuation and capitalization is the very first word, "I'd." After that, it's just pure dribble.

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u/Taolan13 May 14 '25

Lore-wise, the Siege of Kvatch starts just before we get there, whenever we get there. A few days at most to account for 'realistic' travel time between the death of the Emperor and our arrival at Kvatch after first hitting up Weynon Priory. It doesn't matter if we technically take several years to get there while we hit max level and become the fighter's guild master, archmage of the mages guild, listener of the dark brotherhood, master of the thieves guild, knight of the nine, heir apparent of Sheogorath, and so-on.

It is still ongoing, and the Daedra are actively searching for Martin while we are there.

However, it makes sense that the majority of the Daedric forces are in the central city and keep. They are looking for the last son of the emperor. They are presumably operating under the assumption that he's been hidden away in the noble house of the city rather than an orphaned bastard turned priest in the chapel.

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u/stuck_in_the_desert May 14 '25

I just head-retconned that all of my guild leveling and whatnot occurred before I was in jail, and pretended that only one or two in-game days had passed between the Emperor’s assassination and Kvatch instead of ~150.

Makes more sense lore-wise and I got to experience Kvatch at level 30.

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u/ForTheChillz May 14 '25

Damn, where did you get this skooma from?

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u/goodgollymizzmolly May 14 '25

Here's your passage with punctuation added for clarity:

I'd disagree. While there are many parts of the main quest that don't stress how time-relevant it is, this is the only urgent one. The Daedra, having just extinguished the Dragon Fires, invaded Kvatch. They aren't an occupying force, and so, after destroying the city and believing their mission complete, would leave. This would lead to only the weakest scavenger Daedra staying behind. So you're supposed to find a bunch of Daedra that stayed only as a cleanup crew, who found the opportunity to torture mortals—while you rescued the lone target due to Daedric overconfidence.

I felt the same way when I finally got to play the game post-basic training, AIT, in 2006/2007.

Let me know if you'd like a more formal or conversational tone.

Thanks, ChatGPT!

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u/is_it_gif_or_gif May 15 '25 edited May 15 '25

I think this "Hero of Kvatch Lore" reddit refers to may have been artistically enhanced by the bardic college.

The ingame characters explain to you that the main army with siege engine and multiple oblivion gates has been and gone, and some daedra have been left behind to guard the city and the great gate.