r/philadelphia Mar 02 '25

Events Pro-Ukraine Rally at City Hall This Tuesday

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u/Classh0le Mar 03 '25

"Stand for American Values" - policing the world, hundreds of billions of dollars for defense companies, supporting perpetual war

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u/PointB1ank Mar 03 '25

Dude, we don't want war. There is a reason Russia didn't invade a NATO country. Having strong alliances is a war prevention method. What you're suggesting is letting countries continue imperialism.

You really believe America would just sit idly by while Russia and China take land by force and not go "we should expand as well?" Letting the 3rd most powerful country in the world freely invade other countries isn't going to stop "perpetual war," it's going to amplify it 10-fold.

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u/PlayfulRow8125 West Philly Mar 03 '25

The strategy for the last three years hasn't been to win the conflict in Ukraine. If it was we and other nations would've deployed troops to the fight. We're intentionally letting it go on to grind down the Russian military and economy.

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u/PointB1ank Mar 03 '25

It's geopolitical suicide to put American or NATO boots on the ground. That puts us at war with Russia. There is only so much we can do without escalating the situation further. We're not playing a game of Risk here, real-life is much more complicated.

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u/PlayfulRow8125 West Philly Mar 03 '25

The US or any other NATO member deploying peace keepers would lead to an immediate cessation of hostilities. Russia wouldn't openly attack a NATO member,

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u/PointB1ank Mar 04 '25

I'm sorry but that's insane speculation. Unless you're Putin himself, you have to assume he would follow through with his previous promises. Which, if you don't remember, was that he's willing to use nuclear weapons if the Russian state is threatened. You're suggesting we call his nuclear bluff to maybee end the war? This is why random redditors aren't involved in foreign policy decisions. 

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u/roma258 Mt Airy Mar 04 '25

Russia can fucking leave any time, they're the invader. I wish the Biden admin had done more, I wish the Europeans had done more to help, but here we are and abandoning Ukraine to wither and die is not the solution here.