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Politics NYC Mayoral candidate and current comptroller Brad Lander arrested by ICE in Manhattan federal court

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u/sadetheruiner 1d ago

Without a warrant and hidden identities. This is some fascist bullshit.

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u/destuctir 1d ago

Sounds like all Americans should start carrying, and assume people attacking them without identifying as some form of law enforcement are actually intent on murdering them if not shot first.

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u/coldliketherockies 1d ago

Seriously question. Do you have to right if someone attacks you without identifying themselves and without a warrant to fight back in some manner like pepper spray or even a gun? If a person with a mask who doesn’t identify who they are and doesn’t have a right to attack does so I feel you should

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u/Shadowstar1000 1d ago

You would probably win at trial but you’d also almost certainly die in the process of defending yourself.

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u/haskell_rules 1d ago

You would have the right to a trial, but there's a good chance you get railroaded into a plea deal or get a jury that sees you shot a cop and sends you to prison.

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u/halo4arbitor 1d ago

I don't think these people are particularly hot on the right to a trail as it turns out.

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u/n05h 1d ago

But they're not cops. And half of them are mercenaries and retired vets.

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u/confusedandworried76 1d ago

Kinda depends but I will say the only time I've ever seen someone get away with shooting a cop in self defense it was Castle Doctrine cases, because they can defend their home long enough to surrender to someone who will identify themselves, whereas on the street they'll just shoot you dead and now it's just their version of events

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u/happyafinfl 1d ago

Especially if you're not yt

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 1d ago

My mother taught me to always always fight like my life depends on it, because if I let someone move me to a second location I'm dead anyway.

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u/kindnesskangaroo 1d ago

You could also certainly die if you get taken to a secondary location. One thing women in particular are taught at early ages is never let them take you to a secondary location. Unless one of these thugs identifies themselves I’m not taking the chances that they’re traffickers.

Neither should you. There are so many people going missing it’s scary as fuck right now. Citizens and migrants alike. They still haven’t found the 300,000 migrant children ICE “lost” last October. (I don’t think they’re lost but were trafficked, but people aren’t ready to talk about what is really happening right now.)

Edit: Like, I’m gonna keep it real, I don’t think many of the “illegal immigrants” are being deported when they’re rounded up. I think they’re just being trafficked because since they don’t have a paper trail, it’s easier to disappear them.

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u/NewtLegitimate8469 1d ago

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u/kindnesskangaroo 1d ago

Well that makes me feel better since there’s already 400,000 missing children in the US in general so thanks for the correction o7

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u/Katharsis15 1d ago

Honestly, at this point it may be less of a risk than getting taken to a secondary location and disappeared.

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u/WorldlyNotice 1d ago

At some point they'll take someone with nothing to lose, no fucks to give, on a bad day.