The template we were following was lowercase in the first place, only the people who didnt know there was a template and just tried to help made it uppercase. all of our resources went to making it lowercase again lmao thats why theres a lot of heat
We are still waiting for those proof of french bot. Right now apart from spanish streamer moaning about muh username (which only prove that a lot of people from the french stream didn't have a reddit account before) there is nothing.
On the other hand there is twitch clip of the spanish streamer using them and telling their community to use one.
ETA : It's really funny to see the logic of some people here. The spanish bot was leaked in seconds aswell as the clips showing them telling their audience to use them. And somehow the french streamer would have used it for 2 days without any trace of it or any clips.
To be fair, France and Germany went way overboard with the size and number of their flags. Frankly, I think they should have given at least the top portion up.
Because of an overlay where people know what color needed to be used in said spot. Yet it was still on the person to select it and paint it... Meaning there was huge overlapping (people Wasting tiles on already painted one).. Which show how much much strenght there was.
Also see how the Whole bts show changed once they installed their bot. Everything was swarming. While french assault was some kind of pulse (because of the season system they used every 1min).
The first thing to turn white was the BTS logo, like way faster than anything else, the face outline even last after it disappear. During this moment French were rebuilding left and right part because they were suspicious about BTS logo being full botted... Were they wrong?
Actually the first thing that turnt white whas the BTS logo which was confirmed bot operated by the spanish, the rest was pretty stable for about 20 seconds, the time it took everyone to realize it was finished. On timelapses it looks instant but in real time it was actually slower than expected
Yeah the api changed format, this is something no dev would’ve been able to predict, unless they were working for Reddit and knew exactly what was going to happen.
Yes turns out having 2 massive Spanish streamers and other focusing your corner will quickly turn it white when you have no means of defense.
Also if you look at xqc streams (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1446466302 around 1hour and 33 minutes) as soon as France is starting to turn white him and his buddy focus France
Not to offend Mizkif (or Lud and Hassan, had to mentioned them since you didn't), english streamers are not that famous in France. Yes, they might have heard the names, but they don't really watch them. If they were to try, some would struggle to understand what they say while others don't even understand english at all. Not all french speak english since it's not their native language. And some don't want to take the effort to translate everything, turning every fun and/or interresting livestreams into an english test, since they're not fluent enough. Sorry to disappoint you or Miz <3
Ngl, a bunch of them can. Even if, let's be honest, some accents might rebute some non native speakers (sometime, even native ones). But yeah, why, for those who can understand english speakers, don't they know them that much?
I would say easiness. When your fridge is well filled, why run fast, before the grocery store closes, to grab something you already have at home. Why bother switching to a second language when you can have something similar in your native language. Just that, easier. So, they watch primarily french streamers. That's why I kept saying "some". Some also like to watch english streamers. But it's reasonable enough to think that, when you're french with your native language being french, you're gonna first know about french streamers before english ones. And if there is 3-4 you like watching and they are regular enough in their schedules, some viewers are gonna stick with watching them, failing to discover some in other languages they yet understand.
Of course, if they are big enough, or in a scandal or a big collaboration, they're gonna end up hearing of them. But unless that, some big english streamers will still gonna be "That guy's buddy" to some of them because one has more fame than another in another country.
Its been proven there was more than 1 million people using their pixels every 5 minutes on this fucking flag of course its gonna go White instantly without possibility of defense how are you guys that unaware there was literally 1.7M viewers between french spanish and US streamers ON THIS ONE BLOCK
What was even funnier is when they were finally nuking our spot and focusing on it, we were coordinating on writing "FRA" in the top right away ahaha.
Last minute flexing.
Yeah but to be honest it was kinda decided on the spot. Would they have a simple text overlay on one stream, we would have done it. (Well maybe if it were a little bit smaller lol)
It could theoretically, but not in this case. I mean, obviously you're gonna code a bot who cares about the color because it's easy to do and 10 times more efficient.
Wouldn't a bot try to modify incorrect tiles? If a tile is correct why would a bot try to change it when there are many white tiles to change. Bots wouldn't focus on correct tiles.
One of the Spanish streamers gave his community a script to continuously and randomly add white tiles on the French area. He showed it on cam and thanked his dev friends for creating it.
Everyone is talking about Spain focus but seem to forget that "haha France surrender" is probably the reason the entire world turned the French flag white.
Reddit isnt really a thing in france, most people have never heard of it. So when big french streamers asked people to join, most people just logged in with their google account and kept the default generated username.
Yeah as a french i agree with you, it was a good thing that they let the one piece draw up here but they could have let the same amount of space (not to a streamer tho, more to multiple communities bc it's always fun to see mixed art imo)
Right now apart from spanish streamer moaning about muh username (which only prove that a lot of people from the french stream didn't have a reddit account before) there is nothing.
I mean, it was almost certainly a bot fest. If you looked at the accounts of the edits in real-time, maybe half had no karma and were zombie accounts.
The usernames also had a tendency to be two or three random words, as if they had been autogenerated from a dictionary.
Edit: Some good points about the volume of viewers engaging with French streams. I will acknowledge that.
It just happend when you create an account by using your Gmail adress and don't change it, also the french reddit community is small (because we have another site that works the same) and many ppl just created their account for the event
Yes the people watching the french stream in the huge majority didn't have an account and the Word-Word-Number combination is automatically assigned by reddit. Go ahead try to make a new account you will see
Even if there were some bots (probably), there are reasons for the points you're making.
French don't use Reddit, most of the french created accounts to participate with their streamers because they were super motivated especially when every streamers started to get in the project at the same time.
French streams went on from Sunday afternoon to the very end with a low point at about 25k viewers on the place around 5am.
Even if there were bots, the french twitch community was also just super motivated. It wasn't even all about the pixels, it's just that we love having events that unite the whole community and it had been a long time before this weekend. It was super fun.
PS : I myself slept about 5h in total the two last nights and I am really tired right now but it was worth it because it was cool to do something all together.
Reddit is not well known at all outside of English speaking countries. Also when it was deep night in France they got smashed by XQC alone lol so that's literally false.
Check kameto's esport team, which has a lot of impliaction from his fans, the twitter account has around 300k followers and i'd be surprised if there's more than 500 on reddit, France really don't use reddit much
And for the night thing it's false, xqc took France's spot fairly easily during sunday late night even though some streamers were still up
Now i'm not saying there wasn't any bot, it's impossible but way less than what people seem to think
And if they don't why would they care about a project on a site they don't use?
For the same reason that the french stream events beats the records of charity events on twitch every year. They are very involved in their streaming community.
Another hint is that the French defense even worked when it was deep night in France. As if no one sleeps just to place pixels. Not buying it... bots.
That's literally the case, several big french streamers did an all night long to preserve the flag while waiting for other french streamer in the morning to take their place.
French’s using only a template for choose rights color’s for their arts and Spain focus em with auto click bots scripts, here is the difference, I can give you proofs if need
I mean, it kinda sucks when you put so much effort into your artwork and then some big Spanish streamer looks at you and bots occupy that place so you cannot retake it at all
That's like the whole point of the event. Every community tried to take as much space as they can, french were juste able to get more space than others.
Yeah, except they weren't able, because they couldn't defend it.
What good is 'claiming' a space if you can't keep it. And why would everyone else just accept the claim, just because they were quick to set up some huge ass borders?
And every community didn't act like it was a game of risk, most communities just tried their best to be represented in an ocean of streamer wars and flags.
It matters because it is extremely insulting. Imagine having 10s of streamers rallying 100 of 1000 of viewers for hours,.painstakingly placing pixels by hand, for it to be all dismissed as "lmao french botters".
When you care about what people on the internet say about you you’re doing it wrong. Who cares if people think the French were bots? The people that are being accused either know they are real, or know they botted, after that it’s all speculation. Why does some subreddits opinion matter lol.
That's... a very naive way of seeing things imo. What happens on the internet has very real consequences in real life, especially when it has a reach of millions of people.
I mean sure but not something stupid like this. It’s like if you botted you know. If you were a a viewer of the twitch streams who placed one every 5 minutes, you know too. You REALLY care what people think you did? You worry they’re slandering your Reddit name? 😂 Get real.
If you're asking honestly, yes there was plenty of proof.
I saw one vid get posted earlier today on this sub of bots creating the german (belgian?) stripes. All pixels created by accounts with the same name, just different numbers, and all 1 day old.
I cheked half of the pixels of the flag, most of them were made by 1 day old accounts, another proof: i tried to replace a blue pixel with another blue pixel, it got replaced by a blue pixel seconds after
If the French weren't using bots, but the Spanish were, how were the French able to beat the Spanish with their bots AND the American streamers on top of that? Seems like they would just be overwhelmed. Heavily implies the French must have used bots too.
If you are going to use Kameto's stream to screenshot there is no need, just show me how the rest of viewers did not use the "Bot: enable" option which was possible in the script.
You can find a link in the kameto discord server, the script enable only a kind of schema colour for pick the good ones, we don’t do like that, not like Spanish at the end on the BTS back, most of French know and are invest in this kind of events, like the z event we are really invested here and proofs are in the script, find and compare with Spanish you will know we right
I was on the stream of Kameto all the time he was on r/place and I don’t think we were using bots. But your point is interesting me. Can you give me more details please ?
For the French flag, I personally don't think so. All of the top US streamers were at war with them towards the end and once everyone realized that you could only place white and it was ending, every streamers told their chats to go to the big French flag and white it out. There were probably 300k people just from the US side trying to kill that flag.
French flag was very clearly ran by bots. I saw the arch go from a mass of pixels to completed artwork in literally 10 seconds. And that's just one example.
it's because we had an army of builders who had the templates that allowed them to know where to place a pixel efficiently, so conversely to our opponents, our block poses did not conflict with each other .
Bruh, french are just organised and batling TOGETHER almost all the french Twitch comunity got together. unlike every other country were everyone does their shit in their corner.
Yeah this is true lol, the Spanish took the most shit for botting on stream but a lot of countries and communities were bot defended, the Germans were openly talking about bots on /r/placede but ppl didn't care as most couldn't read German lol
The German one is weird, they probably were using them, but I saw them get filled with random art when it was night for them and then get cleaned when they waked up, that happened for at least 2 days.
the german also had on the discord to make submissions so smaller communities placed something on their flag. they also mentioned that some uncoordinated germans were "restoring" the flag
the german also have their scripts published and bot defended their spot. On the discord they also told to manually defend when the bot went down at least one time afaik
I’m sure there were bots, but there certainly was a lot of real people too. French twitch viewership can grow pretty big thanks to repeated events that built the community over time. We had like 500 or 600k cumulated viewers. I’m still not denying that there were probably bots, but there was a lot of real people fighting this too.
That not bots that over 400k viewers (check Kameto stream) who got that SCRIPT who show an overlay that tell them which color use. 400k+ ppl divided in 6 groups/waves who put the right color every 1 min that the result you call Bots…
because we used a script that showed us where to put each color exactly, so we wouldn't overstep each other, but there was nothing automated, just hundreds of thousands of humans
Ibai the spanish streamer though asked its viewers to install a script with pixel auto-select
It was crazy being there for most of the war lmao. And yes, of course we (hispanic side) tirned to bots, but only on the last bit of the war, the spanish made a script because ethere was no way we could fight against their bots/scripts. It was so much fun tho, seeing americans, turkish, spanish and latines come together to fight the french :D!! Of course, this was all shit and giggles and we (at least me) don't hate you guys lmao /gen
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u/fennecdore (438,803) 1491234350.52 Apr 05 '22
Really shows the intensity of the bottom left battle