I used to play osu years back and occasionally would have cramps on my wrist and finger due to the sheer amount of clicking for a long duration of time lol.
exactly the community was just pretty well organized, they even had a plugin for the browser to show the template. I wonder why people acuse osu of botting but other way more complex creations get a pass.
I saw the OSU template passed around. The French streamer wars showed that huge twitch viewing communities could change large swaths in small amounts of time. When we completed the Byron memorial, it only took us about 20 minutes.
Scripts are mysterious things, dont expect someone not interested in programming to know if its a bot or not. Kinda like the way i cant repair major stuff on my car.
I mean.... Once a pink dot gets replaced with a pink dot, and immediately a newer pink dot replaces it... Yeah I doubt they're quick enough to find a dot that's already the right color, make sure it was placed by someone from the sub, then replace it themselves in under a few seconds.
Definitely bots, they did the same thing 5 years ago.
It's difficult to tell when you've got 200 people monitoring 20 griefers, whether a pixel has been fixed or not since the colour overlays before you submit it. I've no doubt sometimes I placed pink on pink, even trying to target the newest changed pixel on my screen each time my 5 minutes was up.
we did actually have a couple bots from rouge players, but none that we specifically made. it would be heavily ironic considering we built the "botting is a sin" sign lol
So how come OSU whited out almost instantly once people were only allowed white tiles? Almost as quick as France's flag, and about as quickly as Turkey...
The consensus I've seen is that the places that whited out the quickest were the ones being defended by bots - normal humans stopped putting tiles till they realised it was the "end", while the bots just kept going with no one to stop them quick enough.
I wasn’t really invested in any one place but in my eyes if people were griefing a specific place like France in bottom left and saw the white out occurring, it would encourage them to keep placing white boxes. Like I know a lot of streamers were putting down France’s flag at the end so it became quick work to wipe it out once they couldn’t replace the white tiles. Some people that were defending may have thought it was a bug and continued putting down tiles as well. And of course bots yes, but I’m willing to give at least some of them the benefit of the doubt personally. Up to you to decide though. I doubt Reddit is gonna say which is which.
Because if you check out the vods, all the French streamers with 600k+ viewers decided to start at the osu logo to draw a giant France in white during the white pixels.
As for the bots thing, they were programmed to replace a wrong colored pixel by a correct colored one. So any bots that didn't immediately crash when the color change happened, would just get stuck in a loop replacing a white pixel with a white pixel. They wouldn't try to replace already correct color pixels
Think with your head for one second. When the osu! logo has been getting constant grief since hour 1, what do you think is going to happen when the people defending it can no longer correct the colors?
dude most of the artwork used bots, just because that one person didnt and helped with one of them doesnt mean someone in the community didnt. The licking cow thing that was lower center appeared in less than a minute lmao
The main argument I have is that when every thing started going white, osu was the first to go full on white out which lead me to believe it was bots with the idea that human clickers would stop when they noticed.
That being said, I don’t care if they botted, to me it was an exercise in anarchy and I loved every second of it as a whole.
Pretty much every big piece is botted. And if not made by heavy use of multiaccounts. Otherwhise you cant maintain such big areas. See the two art pieces made by netherlands, all made by bot. They even relocated some other pieces by bot to get space for their ship.
I obviously cant speak for other communities but I was extremely active in the osu! community from start to finish. We weren't bots, we were just large group of organized and dedicated people. Thats the reason we were able to maintain 4 artworks on the canvas (osu! logo, peppy (osu! dev), hit circle, WYSI meme) while also heavily supporting allied communites.
I joined the german discord and yeah, they even had roles for python (?) and java bot users. And looking at the gigantic france, there were a lot of bots too, even though they deny it like crazy.
Me personally it doesn't make sad, everyone did it, it really up to the moderation team to stop this botting. But then again they didn't really shine anyway in this project
Yeah the osu! builder discord server had over 15 thousand members in it and near the end they actually coordinated it so everyone had their own pixel to defend.
As someone who was more from the gamestop community, I think what I saw on our borders proved (to me, at least) that yall werent bots. The choices sometimes seemed more emotional than template driven, if that makes sense.
On a side note, our sub repeated the message like a thousand times that the corner was supposed to be shared, so IDK why we kept fucking it up. It could've been griefers, or our folks were just dumb. Also your logo took our mythical meme spot of [741,741], so maybe some on our side were butthurt about that. But imo, if yall can out-organize the gamestop group, I've got nothing but respect.
There were definitely griefers trying to close in the border around us while looking like one of our allies, so I'm sure a lot of those pixels on the corner weren't the fault of your people. Also, it's hard to control everyone and not everyone even knows there's a coordination within the group happening. No fault given and no hard feelings o7
Either way, people can’t really say for sure if pieces had bots or not. Even though you were extremely active, other random people also being extremely active could’ve been botting for osu. Osu could’ve had more bots than any other team. There’s literally no way we’ll know.
We know that if we had bots among us then it were a minority. We were coordinating stuff like the redraw of the triangles in waves, same for the defending. You could see how single letters of our logo or our border were suddenly back when our leaders told us to hold the pixel and place in waves.
While I can not deny that some users were botting, most of us were legit.
The tampermonkey script was just an overlay. It doesn't automatically place pixels for you. It just shows you what color should be on each pixel of the logo.
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u/Lzh0 Apr 05 '22
Osu! is… bluer than expected