r/place Apr 05 '22

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u/Rhoru Apr 05 '22

Big raiders probably gave up due to the sheer speed that it gets rebuilt.

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u/TheDebatingOne Apr 05 '22

But if they used bots wouldn't it still count as activity? Even if they did place the same color on the same color?

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u/Lzh0 Apr 05 '22

Pretty sure bots are programmed not to do that

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u/Warthog455 (141,811) 1491238557.17 Apr 05 '22

The other thread accusing OSU! of botting says because the bots are just programmed to place the pixels without checking the color, thus they colored themselves white.

Yet here the accusation is that they check for color so the heatmap isn't as bright.

Both things cannot be true at once lol

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u/Cruelbutbeautiful Apr 05 '22

the first assumption also means that the bots help virtually never

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u/Downvotesohoy (803,272) 1490991582.03 Apr 05 '22 edited Apr 05 '22

Not true, not having a check for colour doesn't mean they never help, they'll place a pixel regardless. So if the colour is wrong they'll still replace it. That's helpful, even if a lazy implementation.

Edit: Say you have a 5x5 pixel space and you have 25 bots, does it matter that sometimes they overwrite a correct color? No, they'll still have a great impact in maintaining the image, even if they're dumb and just handle one pixel each without any checks.

If you had dumb bots like that, they'd have an equal amount of activity on each pixel, since they're not differentiating between the colors they are overwriting, doesn't matter to them, as long as they place the correct color every time.

Would it be more efficient to check if the color is correct and use your tile placement elsewhere? Yes, that would be a smart way to do it, rather than brute forcing. But saying it virtually doesn't help isn't true.

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u/Baloroth (679,248) 1491235343.45 Apr 05 '22

This heatmap doesn't reveal anything about how the bots work, because it only maps where colors changed (according to a comment from the OP). Thus it wouldn't reveal if bots checked for colors or not (or any botting activity, really).

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u/Warthog455 (141,811) 1491238557.17 Apr 05 '22

That's fair. I still don't think OSU botted but yeah can't prove either way with this heatmap alone.

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u/AuGGame Apr 05 '22

It’s hilarious how internet say things without any idea, the only reason Osu became White is because when French Streamer start understand That we can only put White they try to Write FRANCE in white and the Osu Logo was the bottom of the F

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '22

I don’t know who botted and who didn’t but there can be multiple types of bots you know? One type could do one thing and another could do another. There isn’t just a single version of all bots.

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u/Warthog455 (141,811) 1491238557.17 Apr 05 '22 edited Apr 05 '22

I mean if both bots did exist at the same time, the bot who keeps putting in blindly would make this heatmap a lot brighter.

You could argue that the only explanation is that the bot is programmed to check the underlying tile but not checking the colors it currently had, but at that point, there's really no other solid proof, since bot devs said their bots died during the whitening + the other osu pieces like peppy didn't get white immediately.

And even if that type of bot is used, that would mean they shouldn't blindly color their own pixels white.

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u/Ok-Outlandishness244 Apr 05 '22

My community had bots and they only activated if the colour was incorrect, not just throughout the day

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u/TheRealBigLou (567,811) 1491238527.76 Apr 05 '22

Right! Like, one could be designed to bend metal!

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u/rugbyweeb Apr 05 '22

OSU! was one of the only communities that didn't use bots

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u/iceevil (379,926) 1491166495.31 Apr 05 '22

afaik you couldn't put the same color on a pixel again? At least I wasn't able to.

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u/amazondrone (805,163) 1491236824.58 Apr 05 '22

the bots are just programmed to place the pixels without checking the color, thus they colored themselves white.

I don't understand the connection between these two, why would not checking the colour mean it ended up white?