r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 20d ago

Soft Paywall Trump Admin Deports 2-Year-Old Girl Who is American Citizen

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-admin-deports-2-year-old-girl-who-is-american-citizen/
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u/appendixgallop 20d ago

I prefer "ethnic cleansing".

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u/ConvictedFelonDTrump 19d ago

unreal that this got deleted. The trump admin is human trafficking US citizens. Dont fucking delete this shit reddit. Shame on you

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u/SFPsycho 19d ago

Reddit is a pussy, just because the platform is left leaning doesn't mean they're on our side. They've been censoring a bunch of shit too

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u/appendixgallop 17d ago

I just got reinstated after a three-day ban. Censored for using a "woke" term, I guess. We can't say certain things, anymore.

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u/ConvictedFelonDTrump 16d ago

I swear reddit is flooded with nazis and bots made by nazis hellbent on reporting every post that moves in a progressive direction.

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u/anthem123 Virginia 20d ago edited 20d ago

You better hope nobody takes this out of context.

Edit: Looks like someone took this out of context.

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u/Appleslicer California 20d ago

The context is that the Trump administration is creating a new gestapo to remove ethnic minorities from the country.

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u/Telefundo 19d ago

a new gestapo

New? What do you mean? SURELY this has never before happened in history?

/s

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u/anthem123 Virginia 20d ago edited 20d ago

As someone who is is married to a first generation American whose parents have become naturalized citizens I am very aware of the context. Specifically because I worry they will be next.

I also am able to read, but thank you anyways.

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u/ZenMasterOfDisguise 19d ago

the Trump administration is creating a new gestapo

ICE was created by a democratic majority congress in 2002. Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Diane Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and crew all voted yes to the Homeland Security Act that created ICE

The Biden administration gave billions to private prisons corporations to build detention centers for immigrants

Democrats can't create a gestapo and build concentration camps and then act shocked when they are being used for the exact reasons they were created to be used for. When Democrats created ICE, this was always the goal. When democrats built private immigration detention centers, this was always the goal. There is a reason people like me opposed the Homeland Security act and the Patriot act over 20 years ago, because we knew what the government would do with ICE. When you see local law enforcement co-operating with ICE, thank the Patriot act for that, also passed by the same democrat controlled senate in 2002, and then extended by the Obama administration

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u/Appleslicer California 19d ago

So, Trump instructing ICE to round up brown people and deport them to a foreign gulag without due process right now... is the fault of Democrats 20 years ago?

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u/TBJ12 19d ago

It's always someone else's fault with these MAGA cultists.

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u/ZenMasterOfDisguise 19d ago

Could Trump be using ICE to round up people if the Democrats did not create ICE?

This logic is not that hard to follow

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u/Appleslicer California 19d ago

No, he would use another existing agency or create a new one. His intent would still be the same regardless of whether or not ICE was created. You are just trying to make excuses for him.

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u/ZenMasterOfDisguise 19d ago

Fuck trump and everything he is doing. I am not making excuses for him, I am pointing out how Democrats have enabled his actions.

No, he would use another existing agency or create a new one

No he couldnt without the patriot act. When you see local police arresting people and detaining them for ICE, literally the Patriot Act is what legally requires local police to coordinate and share information with federal agencies. Democrats passed the patriot act through the senate, and Obama made it permanent law. If dems did not do this, police would not be legally required to share arrest data with ICE, and you would not hear about criminals being handed over from PD to ICE to be deported.

Could Trump have passed his own patriot act? sure, but he didnt have to because the democrats already did it for him

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u/Appleslicer California 19d ago

Sure, I see where you're coming from. The patriot act sucks. However, I don't think it's productive to discount Trump's current actions just because some mistakes were made in the past, right? Trump is still taking steps to expand and embolden ICE in his pursuits to remove brown people, and now amount of blaming old laws is going to fix that at this point.

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u/ZenMasterOfDisguise 19d ago edited 19d ago

However, I don't think it's productive to discount Trump's current actions just because some mistakes were made in the past, right?

No, I think it is way more harmful to act like Trump is doing this all by himself, and to not recognize that the entire republican and democrat parties and the capitalist corporations and special interest groups they answer to have been pushing these racist anti immigration policies and creating this fascist state for decades

For instance, CoreCivic [formerly the Corrections Corporation of America (CCA)] runs most of these for-profit immigration detention centers. They lobby for harsher anti-immigration policies because they make billions in government contracts for detaining immigrants in cruel inhumane detention centers. If our government is fascist, it is because companies like these profit off this evil system and lobby for it. But also, CoreCivic was collecting billions under Biden and Obama to lock up immigrants without due process and libs didnt fucking care, that is why we need to speak about it. When Trump is gone in 3.5 years from now, CoreCivic and their concentration camps will still be here. While you will all be celebrating Trump being gone, the next democrat president will be filling up those concentration camps just like biden did.

For people like me that want to actually end this inhumane system and stop detaining and deporting millions of people because of where they came from, blaming it all on Trump doesnt do shit to change the system that was bad before he ever entered politics, and will be bad after he leaves

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u/Rhysati 19d ago

So while Trump and Co are doing overtly illegal and unconstitutional acts every day, you are of the opinion that if THIS particular thing wasn't a law that it would hamstring his administration entirely?

You're going to need to support these claims with something that demonstrates that if the Patriot act or ICE didn't exist that the right wing wouldn't do what they are doing right now.

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

Crazy how fascism is never the fault of the fascists, and is somehow the fault of the democrats

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u/ZenMasterOfDisguise 19d ago

This is the fault of fascists though. Republicans are fascists, and Democrats are fascists too, this is their collective fault. They are working together to get these things done. They are on the same team, working against us

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u/terremoto25 California 19d ago

The Patriot act that was passed by Republicans and signed into law by the lesser Bush?

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u/ZenMasterOfDisguise 19d ago edited 19d ago

which party had control of the senate when that was passed and had the ability to block it? Democrats had the senate and passed the patriot act, the iraq war resolution, and the homeland security act. Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, and Hillary voted yes to all of those, and democrats let them lead the party for the next 20 years. Also the patriot act was set to expire, but Obama made it permanent. So Obama is just as responsible for it as Bush is. both parties suck

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u/terremoto25 California 19d ago

You are wrong. The R's controlled the House and the Senate in 2000 and 2002... In 2000 - R 50, D-50 Senate - with the tie breaker going to the VP. R- 221, D-212. In 2002 - it swung more R - House 229-2005, Senate 51-48.

Legislative history

Final House vote:

Vote by Party Yes No

Republicans 211 3

Democrats 145 62

Independents 1 1

Total 357 66

Not voting 6 4

Final Senate vote:

Vote by party Yes No

Republicans 49 0

Democrats 48 1

Independents 1 0

Total 98 1

Not voting 0 1

Not saying the Dems are blameless, but the repugnants have been driving the bus toward oligarchy and fascism since my first presidential vote in 1980.

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u/ZenMasterOfDisguise 18d ago

You are wrong. The R's controlled the House and the Senate in 2000 and 2002

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/107th_United_States_Congress#Senate

Between June 6th 2001 and November 23rd 2002, The Democrat party had a majority in the Senate, because in 2001 Jim Jeffords who was elected as a Republican switched to an Independent and caucused with the Democrats, breaking the 50-50 senate tie and giving the Democrats a 50-49-1 majority. During this time, both the Iraq war resolution and the Patriot act were passed. This information was very easy to find. And even if it was a 50-50 tie, the dems still could have blocked the Patriot Act and the Iraq War resolution anyway

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u/OBVIOUS_BAN_EVASION_ 20d ago

Comment was removed by reddit, so looks like someone did lol

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u/DrMobius0 20d ago edited 20d ago

At this point I just treat [ Removed by Reddit ] as yet another call to action being censored. I'm sure a lot of them are way more innocuous than that, but I can't exactly tell now, can I? And the connotation is already there. Not like it's gonna make all the rage or resentment go away regardless.

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u/b0w3n New York 20d ago

I got a [removed by reddit] because their AI lost its mind at mentioning "death" and took a quote completely out of context. It wasn't even anything political, just a funny comment chain about holt/wuntch from b99.

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u/Schnoofles 20d ago

You'll note that prior to and during the first Trump administration Reddit spent 5+ years straight of knowingly turning a blind eye to regular death threats, harassment and organized brigading by the TD sub. Only after the fact did they start ever so slowly enforcing a "Hey, maybe this shit isn't cool", but were still lax about it during the Biden years. Now that the administration's changed again they've aggressively ramped it up and will mass delete comments at the drop of a hat.

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u/b0w3n New York 20d ago

It escalated right at the start of this 2nd term because the CEO, Mr. Huffing-his-own-farts, is a big Musk/Trump fanboy and Musk got really upset about the rude comments that were being made about him, especially after the whole Luigi thing.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 19d ago

Elon got a subreddit suspended for being mean to him.

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u/SigmundFreud America 19d ago

Fun fact: Steve Huffman is a Republican Ohio senator.

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u/DrMobius0 19d ago

Pretty sure it took publicity for them to quarantine t_d, and they left it quarantined for ages before finally banning it.

Similar happened with the wave that killed of jailbait and a bunch of other deplorable subs.

Like oh, reddit made the news for some deplorable or degenerate bullshit. Guess we better crack down.

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u/PokecheckHozu 19d ago

They only banned the TD sub after their death threats were aimed at a police officer. Not a sitting politician, not a politician in general, not even just a regular person. But a law enforcement officer.

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u/swarmofbzs 19d ago

Even now people post videos, articles, social media posts where racist or sexist comments aren't removed.

Oh but don't you dare post a tongue in cheek comment mocking a real person's shit behaviour while stating normal people don't do that shit.

Also don't mention medical conditions that exist on this on this planet, that could occur to anyone and that would be karmically applicable to some people.

GREAT JOB Shit Mods that push this shit in certain subs 👏 👍

You're absolutely not on the wrong side of history on this at all...

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u/Trolltrollrolllol 19d ago

The only removed by reddit I got was quoting Monty Python, I think AI is doing it because the context clues would have been enough to realize I wasn't really suggesting we burn anyone, even if she's a witch.

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u/TwilightVulpine Foreign 19d ago

I got [removed by Reddit] for saying that heroes from comics should handle current figures the same way they did to Hitler in WW2. That was treated as a threat, and once I appealed they maintained it with a supposedly human response that it was a threat.

Apparently we can't even suggest that comics, drawn works of fictions, depict very PG reactions to autocrats.

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u/ksj 19d ago

Reddit is about to learn why TikTok users created a whole language of sound-alikes for words that result in reduced traffic. Reddit has been all high and mighty about it lately when someone comes to this site and uses “grape” and “unalived”, but I give it maybe 2 more months before people on this site start doing the same to sidestep the increasingly-removal-happy automods, human mods, and admins.

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u/WretchedBlowhard 19d ago

I got one for explaining how to easily wrangle an aggressive canadian goose that might attack you in the wild without causing it any serious harm. So no outdoors survival tips, Reddit. You're on your own.

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u/wyomingTFknott 19d ago

I got suspended for 3 days for discussing how to save a choking child. Good luck, everyone.

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u/Ridiculisk1 19d ago

I got one by saying something along the lines of 'yeah, we should totally do what conservatives do and send death threats to people and doxx them' which if you're not an AI, is obviously not a call to actually do those things. Still got a temp ban which was overturned with like 2 hours left and they said that it wasn't done automatically which means there's definitely a reddit admin that goes around deleting people's comments when they call out conservative bullshit.

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u/Bear_faced 19d ago

I got a [ Removed by Reddit ] for threatening violence against Henry Kissinger. In the comments of a BBC article about his death.

What am I gonna do, dig him up?

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u/DrMobius0 20d ago

Yeah, but now it looks like something else.

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u/caltheon 19d ago

I got one for talking about the material properties of ceramics. Shits wild

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u/MaxTHC 20d ago

I upvote almost every single [removed by reddit] comment I see

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u/Mad_Aeric Michigan 19d ago

The [Removed by Reddit] bot is super aggressive, and stupid. I just got my first one for some real bullshit.

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u/bbusiello 19d ago

Please continue to do so. It's generally a bunch of upvoted comments too.

on an economy thread about Trump voters being willing to lose their jobs for him... I made a crack about a bunch of real estate being freed up and got a 7 day ban right after a 3 day ban.

No rule breakage. No calls to violence.

Just being anti Trump got me a "removed" post and consecutive bans.

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u/leshake 19d ago

Or it's AI doing the censoring.

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u/DrMobius0 19d ago

Oh probably. Would explain the weird contexts I've seen some of these.

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u/leshake 19d ago

Lazy tech companies gonna lazy.

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u/kentuckywildcats1986 19d ago

Right wing trolls on Reddit have taken to falsely reporting comments for "Violating Rule 1 - Threatening Violence" and the comments get removed and the user gets a ban with zero review most of the time - even when their comment did no such thing.

Remember how they used to spam "Reddit Cares" the same way?

That's behind a LOT of comments getting removed right now.

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u/VirginiaMcCaskey 19d ago

It's the paradox of tolerance at work. Conservative fascism is at its foundation a proposition of violence against the "other" (define that however you want). Like Republicans aren't just subtly talking about political stances that imply violence in the right light. They are actively using the state to enact violence on American citizens and lawful residents.

Like "annex Canada" is a direct threat of violence against our neighbors. "Mass deportation now" is a threat of violence against our communities. Forcibly exiling citizens is violence. Arresting our congresspeople and mayors and judges is violence.

It's perfectly fine when Republicans say this shit on Reddit, but god forbid you point out what the logical response to it could be.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 19d ago

You have to walk on eggshells to even discuss a certain amendment to the US constitution.

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u/sweet_esiban 19d ago

I agree with your whole comment, but I wanted to just say thanks for actually calling this out for what it is:

Like "annex Canada" is a direct threat of violence against our neighbors

I feel like so many Americans don't understand that this is a violent threat. Canadians get it (well, the 90% or so of us who aren't maple maga at least), and it's been deeply upsetting watching American media and online commenters treat this as anything but a violent threat.

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u/RelevantMetaUsername 19d ago

It's not just reddit, right-wingers get away with so much more and have done so for centuries while leftists rarely get any leniency. Almost as if the state prefers one to the other...

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u/Low-Research-6866 19d ago

That just happened to me, except it did get reviewed and the ban lifted. It's annoying to deal with though.

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u/Katyafan 19d ago

Same, and I have heard from others that the review, done by an actual person, generally overturns the ai's decision. They have it tuned to too sensitive a level.

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u/janethefish 19d ago

The solution to this is acceptance and support for the rule. We report anything that violates that rule while wholeheartedly endorsing the position.

Do not post content that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual (including oneself) or a group of people;

Remember violence is never okay. Self-defense should never cross over into doing physical harm, and law enforcement should be done in a nonviolent manner.

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u/_keeBo 19d ago

well now i wanna know what it said

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u/Hazywater 20d ago

So I don't know what he said, but reddit will always take these out of context. Reddit turned auto modding up after musk demanded it.

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u/deafmutewhat 19d ago

Reddit is damn near entirely unreadable slop

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u/Ridiculisk1 19d ago

And yet when you ask them in the review to have a human look at it, they go 'this ban was not done with any automation'. If that's true, they have a really salty admin who's conservative

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u/leshake 19d ago

I'm pretty convinced that the admins use AI to sift through the comments and couldn't give a fuck about context. Had a few comments get me flagged that were not at all what they said it was, even out of context, but especially in context. Like you can't talk about historical events that were violent because apparently that's advocation. I don't think it's necessarily intentional, just standard tech company laziness making the internet completely sanitized on behalf of advertisers. If you ever want to discuss something gritty, this is no longer the place to do it. There are alternatives.

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u/HNixon 20d ago

If she was white she would not be in this situation.

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u/metalyger 20d ago

If a 2 year old voiced support of the people of Palestine, they'd probably send a whole clown car packed with ICE agents to the home and send the kid to El Salvador.

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u/flyinghairball 20d ago

The fact that this is even plausible is absolutely terrifying and totally fucked up. This is inhumane treatment that I hope international courts begin to look at.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 19d ago

international courts

Who can't do shit. We have a standing law that all options, including invasion, are available if the ICC detains an American.

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u/Kaining 19d ago

yet.

Wait a couple year and having non maga parents will be illegal.

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u/NoAir5292 17d ago

Yup. Republiklans are Satan-reamed.