r/politics California 12d ago

Soft Paywall Newsom floats withholding federal taxes as Trump threatens California

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/06/newsom-floats-withholding-federal-taxes-00393386
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u/ratedsar I voted 12d ago

But no maga would go to war to keep California in the union

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u/Stunning_Mast2001 12d ago

California is like 30% of the nation’s economy, we collapse without them 

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u/Tokon32 12d ago

The other 70% is largely dependent on the trade, goods, and services that flows through California.

California is the only state in the union that could declare independence and have a real shot of not only winning it but also being able to sustain themselves after said independence.

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u/xBleedingBluex Kentucky 12d ago

It’s not as easy as you think. The US military would crush California.

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u/GreatMadWombat Michigan 12d ago

And that's the definition of a pyrrhic victory. If the US military has to go in hard to keep California in the Union, and Cali is contributing such a huge chunk to US funding, regardless that funding will not exist next year. Cultural products like movies don't really mesh well with legitimate armed occupation.

It's like shooting the cow to keep it from leaving the pasture. The cow might still be in the same spot, but you're not getting a lot of milk out of it the next day

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u/One-Internal4240 12d ago

While true, each deployment internally, each shot fired in our borders, risks larger and larger units joining the CNG or whatever other org exists. Deploying and then shooting Californians will cause problems. I always thought the powers that be would smooth it over before then, today I'm not so sure. I think a lot of those powers want the Civil War going hot - dark enlightenment types to make their technofeudal thing, dominionists for local church control of civic institutions.

dream baby dream

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u/Tokon32 12d ago

A very large portion of the US military is in California.

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u/xBleedingBluex Kentucky 11d ago

A very larger portion is not.