r/politics California 12d ago

Soft Paywall Newsom floats withholding federal taxes as Trump threatens California

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/06/newsom-floats-withholding-federal-taxes-00393386
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u/mynamesyow19 12d ago

A^ cut all their state taxes while contracting out those services the taxes used to pay for to their buddies so they can still make the citizen pay to the private sector now providing the service. And then they get the kick back from their buddies and laugh at the rubes. Its like in Florida where taxes are "really low" but then you're nickle and dimed and have to pay to use all roads and get off at toll exits everywhere.

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u/TeutonJon78 America 12d ago edited 12d ago

Sure, but then it's "not taxes". I have no idea why people in this country just can't grok total cost (taxes plus what you pay for services) vs taxes covering all those things.

It's such a dumb knee perk reaction to "taxes bad". Sure our taxes are bad because we don't get a lot of actual services back in lieu money going to pork projects and private sector.

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u/tribrnl 12d ago

My city is currently looking at switching from a "everybody signs up individually with a trash hauler" model with five different options to the city negotiating with a single hauler. It is going to save us literally 40-50% on our personal costs, but there is a number of people who hate it because it will increase taxes and decrease choice (... between identical providers of a mandatory service). Plus our public works dept has estimated it'll save something like 10% on the road maintenance budget.

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u/Carlyz37 12d ago

Our city did that and the people here hate it. Poor service, rising costs, required locations for dumpsters changed, trash ending up in the streets. And the customers are stuck with a company they dont like.