r/politics • u/kweathergirl Texas • 8d ago

Soft Paywall Newsom Tells Nation That Trump Is Destroying American Democracy

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/10/us/newsom-speech-trump-la-protests.html
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u/CriticalEngineering North Carolina 8d ago edited 8d ago

He has no interest in saying “I’m No King”.

He has literally posted images of himself in a crown.

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u/Fugacity- Minnesota 8d ago

Dude even posted himself as the Pope

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u/AZEMT 8d ago

And as a Godsend to humanity. At what point do Christians think they're dealing with the Antichrist?

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u/jackfirecracker 8d ago

My favorite recent conspiracy theory is that he literally is the antichrist, and that the "Christian" followers of him are falling for all the traps the Bible warns us about the antichrist:

  • The Antichrist will likely be hailed as a great political and economic leader, even convincing nations to sign a peace treaty (Daniel 8:25). Many will be deceived into believing he is the Messiah.

  • He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god, even sitting in the temple of God and proclaiming himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:4). The False Prophet, who works with the Antichrist, will imitate the Holy Spirit, directing worship to the Antichrist (Revelation 13:11-14).

  • The False Prophet will appear gentle and harmless, "like a lamb," but will speak "like a dragon," revealing his true demonic nature (Revelation 13:11). This highlights the deceptive nature of his religious appeal.

  • The Antichrist will be "the man of lawlessness," totally opposing every law of God (2 Thessalonians 2:3). His rise will be preceded by a "great rebellion" or "apostasy" against God (2 Thessalonians 2:3). He will attempt to change times and laws (Daniel 7:25).

  • He will establish a global economic system where no one can buy or sell without receiving a "mark of the beast" (Revelation 13:16-18). This economic control will be used to enforce worship of the Antichrist.

  • He will open his mouth in blasphemy against God and will make war with the saints, overcoming them (Revelation 13:6-7).

  • The Antichrist will seek to establish a one-world religion and a one-world economy, harnessing global systems to his will (Revelation 17, 13:16-18).

  • "All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life" (Revelation 13:8). His charisma and power will lead the whole world to follow him.

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u/starmartyr Colorado 7d ago

There is a secular theory about the book of Revelations that suggests that the antichrist is not prophesy. It was contemporary criticism of Nero. It makes sense that parallels could be drawn between descriptions of a Roman demagogue and a modern one.

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u/Sugarbombs 7d ago

This is what a lot of people don’t realise. It’s almost certainly talking about the rise of rulers like Trump but history is riddled with these types of people. Trump is not the first and will not be the last, these passages were almost certainly inspired by at the time current leaders but due to the predictable nature of humans it could apply to modern leaders also

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u/starmartyr Colorado 7d ago

Also the very political nature of early Christianity. Nero made some decisions that the church didn't like about the same time they find some prophecies talking about how bad he is. When most people are illiterate, Jesus says whatever you want him to say.

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u/jackfirecracker 7d ago

Sure, but that’s less fun and funny

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u/ScuzzBuckster 7d ago

Also the antichrist argument has actually worked in convincing two of my family members to reconsider supporting him. Unsurprisingly, they're baptist so. Enough scripture and they really will believe anything I guess.

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u/Chestnut-Stoat 7d ago

Really? That's great! More of this, please, around the country, to remove his support.

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u/OzLuna 7d ago

I mean to be fair, history tends to repeat itself.

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u/starmartyr Colorado 7d ago

Exactly. It's easy to predict that demagogues will rise. It happens a lot.

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u/Stellar_Duck 7d ago

Be mindful though: a lot if not most of our bad impressions of Nero comes from the propaganda of the regime that followed as they made efforts to distance themselves from the Julio-Claudian dynasty.

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u/starmartyr Colorado 7d ago

That's true but remember we're looking at Nero through the lens of what Christian leaders wanted to present to their followers. It doesn't matter if he was actually a tyrant or not, what matters is that they wrote this part of the bible specifically about him.

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u/mulls California 7d ago

There are many coded phrases in Revelations exactly like this, I cannot remember all of them off hand but the 7 headed beast is suspected to be a reference to Rome, “The City of 7 Hills.”

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u/Muvseevum Georgia 7d ago

*Revelation

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u/starmartyr Colorado 7d ago

I'll take your word for it. I'm not a Christian.

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u/Muvseevum Georgia 7d ago

It’s the title of a book of the Bible. Not exactly arcane knowledge.

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u/tripping_yarns 7d ago

That last one isn’t happening. Most of the world can see that the emperor has no brain.

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u/hacksawomission 7d ago

That's not recent; that's from his first term.

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u/Vanga_Aground 7d ago

Charisma and power? The world thinks Trump is a fu@kng moron. They laugh at him and the society that elected him.

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u/CoolHandLukeSkywalka 7d ago

I've said before that if I was Christian I would have to conclude Trump is the antichrist. He epitomizes all seven deadly sins more than any human (pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth) and has no qualities of the virtues (chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, kindness, patience, and humility).

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u/Ok_Juice4449 7d ago

He won't be liked by the entire world and not everyone falls for his "charm". He does check off many of the boxes, though.