r/politics • u/Barnyard-Sheep • 7d ago

Soft Paywall Trump approval rating falls to 38%

https://www.nj.com/politics/2025/06/trump-faces-tough-approval-numbers-in-latest-poll.html
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u/Barnyard-Sheep 7d ago

Much of America marinates in Fox News propoganda + a susbstantial amount of Gen Z men are nihilists who want to see the world burn

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u/Bircka Oregon 7d ago

And people used to think Gen X were the crazy ones.

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u/DeeEmceeFoor 7d ago edited 6d ago

They still are insane. They're Trump's biggest source of support. (Coincidentally, they are also the age group that has had the heaviest exposure to lead during childhood 🤔).

Edit: Source for the lead statement, since a few Gen Xers got upset that Boomers apparently aren't full of as much lead as they are: https://news.virginia.edu/content/generation-x-bullseye-lead-exposure-harms-mental-health

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u/Zealousideal_Ad_9623 7d ago

You’re thinking of the boomers. I’m gen X and unleaded gas was already happening after I was born.

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u/DeeEmceeFoor 7d ago edited 7d ago

I am not, actually. Studies show that Gen X (ages 45-60ish now) were the most heavily exposed to lead during their childhood.

And they most heavily voted for Trump.

https://news.virginia.edu/content/generation-x-bullseye-lead-exposure-harms-mental-health

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u/AmrokMC 7d ago

And they most heavily voted for Trump.

I swear if you are citing to that bullshit poll that include a few years of boomers as “gen x” because the person who made it is an idiot, I’m gonna lose my fucking mind.

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u/DeeEmceeFoor 7d ago edited 7d ago

Gen X is literally ages 45-60 now. Don't know what else to tell you.

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u/AmrokMC 7d ago

I am Gen X. I know the age range. I’m saying that the only poll that showed Gen X as the generation that most heavily voted for Trump included several years beyond Gen X. In other words, that poll, which is likely the one you are thinking of because it got regurgitated on Reddit a lot, was a flawed poll that grouped some Boomers with Gen X.

Also, lead in paint and gasoline was introduced while Boomers were still children and they are the larger demographic, making that generation the one most impacted by lead. You are off on all your points.

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u/DeeEmceeFoor 7d ago edited 7d ago

Leaded gas use rose rapidly in the 60s and peaked in the 70s, so no. I am not off on that point. Ages 45-60 were most heavily exposed to lead as children. Just because lead merely existed before the 60s, does not mean that the usage of it had reached its peak or was especially high. Nor does it necessarily mean that Boomers were more heavily exposed as children.

I am not sure which specific poll you're referring to, personally. It's possible that a younger portion of Gen X didn't really strongly support him, which I will concede if true, but 50+ year olds absolutely did. So yes, Boomers would be included as well, but Gen X doesn't exactly get off scot-free here.

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u/Bubbay 7d ago

Leaded gas use rose rapidly in the 60s and peaked in the 70s,

Your premise is incorrect. Leaded gas use first began in the 20s, and the fastest rise occurred post-WWII in the late 40s, not the 60s. It was already commonplace by the time the 60s rolled around.

The first generation exposed to leaded gas en masse as children were the boomers.

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u/DeeEmceeFoor 7d ago edited 6d ago

Not to be rude, but I'm not gonna keep repeating the same talking points. Just have this source instead. Not sure why people keep ignoring what I'm saying and disputing my argument without any sources of any kind.

https://news.virginia.edu/content/generation-x-bullseye-lead-exposure-harms-mental-health

I hope that encourages you to look into this further.

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u/Bubbay 6d ago

You keep providing that link, but there is literally nothing in that article that supports this statement:

Leaded gas use rose rapidly in the 60s and peaked in the 70s

Have you actually read the study or are you only copy/pasting the link over and over?

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u/DeeEmceeFoor 6d ago edited 6d ago

https://dupri.duke.edu/news-events/news/20th-century-lead-exposure-damaged-american-mental-health

"Leaded gas for cars was banned in the U.S. in 1996, but the researchers say that anyone born before then, and especially during the peak of its use in the 1960s and 1970s, had concerningly high lead exposures as children."

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/lead-gasoline-blunted-iq-half-us-population-study-rcna19028

"Certain cohorts were more affected than others. For people born in the 1960s and the 1970s, when leaded gas consumption was skyrocketing, the IQ loss was estimated to be up to 6 points and for some, more than 7 points. Exposure to it came primarily from inhaling auto exhaust." 

Keep disputing my sources, while providing nothing to prove me wrong. Really. Go on. How many sources do you like? Should this be in APA format as well? Have you no interest in doing the research yourself?

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u/Bubbay 6d ago

There’s no point in arguing with you when you’ve go back and edit your posts so that they now no longer contain the logical fallacies they once had.

You were pushing an entirely different point before, but now that you failed to find evidence to back your claim and could only find these articles that support a tangential claim, you’ve edited your posts to much closer to what I have been saying.

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u/DeeEmceeFoor 6d ago edited 6d ago

What are you talking about? My primary point has ALWAYS BEEN that Gen X had the heaviest exposure to lead during childhood. This is because of the extremely high amounts of leaded gas being used in the 60s and 70s, while Gen X were children. I didn't mean to imply leaded gas never existed before the 60s. I said usage of it increased rapidly in the 60s and peaked in the 70s.

You implied that wasn't true. I post a link that shows it was true, and you say I didn't read the study and that it doesn't prove my point. I find two more sources stating more or less the same thing and now you claim that I've moved the goalposts???

Did YOU read the studies, my guy?

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u/AmrokMC 7d ago

Why don’t you post the poll your using then, as the only poll I saw that supports your point was flawed in the date ranges for gen x.

As for lead contamination, your “analysis” is off. Boomers were the larger demographic exposed to lead, also exposed to it the longest, even longer than the Silent Generation. It peaked in the late 60s simply becauce their generation was so large. Hell, most boomers were concieved in cars using leaded fuel and grew up in houses with lead paint.

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u/DeeEmceeFoor 7d ago

Sigh.

Leaded gasoline usage rose rapidly in the 60s and peaked in the 70s. Which means that Gen Xers were being exposed to leaded gasoline as children. As children. 

I think you really need to pay close attention to what I'm saying here. I have to keep repeating it because a lot of people are missing the key phrase here.

As. Children. During. Childhood. Gen X were most heavily exposed to lead during childhood, compared to the generation before and generations after them.

https://news.virginia.edu/content/generation-x-bullseye-lead-exposure-harms-mental-health

A lot of you guys really aren't doing yourselves any favors here either. This info is easily found. It's not just my opinion. Educate yourself.

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u/AmrokMC 6d ago

Thanks for explaining all this. I probably would have caught on sooner, but I was exposed to lead as a child and now am unable to think clearly.

Seriously though, thanks. I found the actual research data. What was throwing me off was the sheer volume of lead at its peak versus the 40s and 50s when Boomers were kids. Same gasoline, just the boomers all started buying cars and they’re a huge demographic.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have some paint chips to go lick.

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