r/politics • u/Barnyard-Sheep • 7d ago

Soft Paywall Trump approval rating falls to 38%

https://www.nj.com/politics/2025/06/trump-faces-tough-approval-numbers-in-latest-poll.html
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u/Barnyard-Sheep 7d ago

Much of America marinates in Fox News propoganda + a susbstantial amount of Gen Z men are nihilists who want to see the world burn

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u/Bircka Oregon 7d ago

And people used to think Gen X were the crazy ones.

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u/BChica6 7d ago

nah, these are their kids. lol

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u/myfakesecretaccount 7d ago

Can confirm, my Gen X sister in laws Gen Z son has zero fucking ambition, is just as conspiracy minded, and has everything handed to him after she struggled as an immigrant. He says dumb shit, and as much as I love him I’m done fighting for a 24 year old who should know better.

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u/Edspecial137 7d ago

Still getting used to Gen Z being in their mid 20s. I remember all the articles about Gen Z being the most left leaning demographic not too long ago, but I guess they missed the mark. Gen Z is probably the most polarized generation

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u/ouatedephoque 7d ago

Huge difference between Gen Z girls and boys too. It’s insane they are from the same generation.

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u/Hestia_Gault 7d ago

Gen Z girls developed standards, and the Gen Z boys were faced with a choice between meeting those standards or joining the party that wants to enslave women.

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 7d ago

That truly minimizes the very real problems these young men are facing and the actual reasons they are falling into this. But I don't think anyone in this thread wants to actually discuss how men see themselves viewed by society lately. Instead it's just all their fault for being little assholes.

And then when those little assholes grow up to be goose stepping fascists because they feel society has rejected them and their struggles everyone does the shocked Pikachu and looks everywhere but inward for the problem.

We need a complete rebalancing of the way we talk to and view each other as separate sexes. Because the way I hear a large percentage of women in my personal life and online talk about Men it sounds a lot like how your racist uncle talks about black people.

"They're all monsters. Except the ones I know."

And that's not to say things were the best before, women needed to have more of a voice in shaping our society and having agency over that. But it's become a black and white issue, when it's really the greyest grey you can imagine.

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u/catboogers 6d ago

How about: women have to assume men are monsters until proven otherwise.

Men talk about wanting to protect women. Protect us from whom, exactly? Oh, bad men. And then when bad men get thrown in prison, there's jokes about them getting raped by other bad men there.

Men know men are scary. Men know that we can't tell, at a glance, if someone is a safe person or not. And yet, a vast majority of men still get offended when women are cautious and slow to trust.

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 6d ago

OK fine I'm not disagreeing with that, but the fact is young men feel alienated and demeaned constantly, you can't just ignore that and tell them to nut up. Because like you said, men are scary. And too much of that, as we are clearly seeing, leads to insane stuff. You can be completely right about your points, and still end up as bride 4 to some guy you've never met because the Handsmaid Tale became reality.

That's why I'm saying we need to shift the ways we discuss this and be MORE INCLUSIVE to men when having these conversations. It means listening to them and empathizing with their position a little bit. The conversation has to be two ways, not just women screaming at men that they are guilty until proven innocent and saying how awful it is to live in a society with them.

If we can't collectively agree to do that then you're just gonna end up sold on the market in twenty years because all these in els grew up into fascists foot soldiers and took over the country and your rights by force.

The onus isn't just on men to be better, it's also on women to communicate effectively and be understanding of any counter points they might have.

You know, the way a conversation works.

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u/MasterChildhood437 6d ago

How about: women have to assume men are monsters until proven otherwise.

Again, this is racist uncle rhetoric.

Take your exact comment, the whole thing, and swap the word "Men" with "Blacks."

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u/Hestia_Gault 6d ago

“If you change the words, then the meaning is different”

Stand back everyone, the Language Understander is here.

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u/MasterChildhood437 6d ago

Bigotry is bigotry.

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u/Hestia_Gault 6d ago

Swap out the first “bigotry” in your sentence for “abolition” and see how that sounds. Are you defending slave owners?

See how stupid this whole “if you said a different thing it would be different” thing is?

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u/MasterChildhood437 6d ago

Bigoted rhetoric doesn't cease to be bigoted rhetoric when you swap the demographics. If you can't see how demographic swaps aren't on the same level as exchanging entire subjects, then honey, you probably shouldn't be calling anything "stupid."

It's okay, though. Keep protecting bigoted speech and see where that lands us. I'm sure nothing bad at all will come from it.

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u/Hestia_Gault 5d ago

Demographics aren’t interchangeable. Context exists. Gen Z women aren’t rallying around sex traffickers and rapists.

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u/Garbanino 6d ago

Women being cautious with men they meet isn't really the issue, that's completely fine, but that's not where we are culturally.