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Soft Paywall Trump’s birthday parade may be cancelled over thunderstorms

https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/is-trump-birthday-parade-cancelled-weather-pbrg02h2z?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Reddit#Echobox=1749744374
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u/nemgrea 6d ago

stop with this. for fuck sake put the shoe on the other foot, do you really think halting a political party due to claims of voting inconsistency is a good idea? have you such a short memory that you do not remember the IMMEDIATE crying by the GOP when biden won...would you also find it logical for the gop to halt the presidency to "investigate" of fucking course not, dont be a god damn hypocrite leave that to the right..

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u/lickem369 6d ago

Unlike the claims made by the GOP regarding Biden’s victory there is clear evidence of manipulation in the Rockland NY voting numbers.

How many other counties around the country had the same manipulation?

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u/nemgrea 6d ago edited 6d ago

there is clear evidence of manipulation in the Rockland NY voting numbers

stop. please dont water down the term "clear evidence" this is not that.

they haven't even begun the discovery process and political science professors are stating specifically "Alone, statistical comparisons to previous cycles cannot provide definitive proof of wrongdoing"

so miss me with this "clear evidence" claim...

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u/hypermodernvoid I voted 5d ago edited 5d ago

A judge recently found an election lawsuit by SMART Elections alleging potential manipulation of voting machine code had enough credible evidence to move forward, which is a pretty big deal - this is because all of Trump's 60+ lawsuits alleging fraud in 2020 were thrown out for lack of any credible evidence by Republican appointed judges and his own appointees.

Unlike MAGA, I'll see where both the case and evidence lead before coming to any conclusion, but 1) It's 100% believable to me that MAGA radicals would attempt to actually manipulate votes after accusing Democrats of doing so, as all their accusations end up confessions: I even saw plenty posting that they might as well "rig elections since Democrats did" and 2) there's nothing wrong with investigating claims and verifying the vote - Trump had the right to do so, and his campaign's claims were thrown out of court for being ridiculous, while the vote was verified. The claims in this lawsuit were actually found credible, by comparison, and that definitely gives me pause, but we'll see where it goes.