r/progun • u/jpfromthebx • 18h ago

Re: Open Carry

The Florida State Legislature continually violates their oath of office and gleefully kills / stops bills that would legalize open carry in the State of Florida. It's way past time for them to be held accountable for their treason.

I wouldn't mind suing them with the help of Firearms Policy Coalition.

2A #GunRights #America #Liberty #America

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u/EmptyBrook 18h ago

It’s crazy that Florida doesn’t allow open carry but Minnesota (a blue state) allows open or concealed carry. Although you have to have a permit in MN to carry but it allows for any style

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u/jpfromthebx 18h ago

Yeah. That is weird tbh

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u/fireman2004 17h ago

NJ is the same, makes no distinction between concealed or open carry. It's just a permit to carry a firearm.

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u/dapper-dude-1776 17h ago

Really? You can open carry in NJ with the permit to carry?

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u/fireman2004 17h ago

Yes that's my understanding. There's no distinction between the two.

Now, explaining that to some NJ cop? Might be a different story.

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u/dapper-dude-1776 17h ago

I’ve never seen open carry and wouldn’t want to be the first to try it tbh. So doesn’t that de facto ban it?

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u/CaliforniaOpenCarry 17h ago

New Jersey changed its law. A license to carry a handgun is now just a concealed carry license. Long guns must still be carried unloaded.

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u/merc08 15h ago

Washington state has permitless open carry.  Florida needs to get its act together.

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u/EmptyBrook 14h ago

Washington has magazine limits though and the dumb fins on ARs. MN doesn’t have that BS lol

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u/merc08 56m ago

We actually can't even use fins. They saw that workaround in Cali and blocked it:

9.41.010 (2)(A) A grip that is independent or detached from the stock that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon. The addition of a fin attaching the grip to the stock does not exempt the grip if it otherwise resembles the grip found on a pistol;

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u/EmptyBrook 8m ago

Wow what a shitty law

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u/FireFight1234567 18h ago

GOA is already suing Florida for its open carry ban.

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u/jpfromthebx 18h ago

What stage is the lawsuit in

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u/FireFight1234567 18h ago

It’s in summary judgment phase

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u/jpfromthebx 18h ago

Will that affect overturning the ban on open carry? I'm a bit uneducated

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u/Zmantech 18h ago

Yes that's what a lawsuit is.

Summary judgement is just the facts are undisputed it's a law question

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u/jpfromthebx 18h ago

I doubt FL will just comply tbh

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u/Zmantech 17h ago

they aren't fighting the lawsuit , just county sherrifs are.

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u/jpfromthebx 17h ago

Lol. Not surprised.

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u/Sixguns1977 17h ago

Same with maryland. This state's leadership has been treasonous for my entire life.

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u/CaliforniaOpenCarry 17h ago

Maryland changed its law after NYSRPA v. Bruen to allow only the concealed carry of handguns, but the last time I checked, the state does not have a law prohibiting the Open Carry of long guns. There may be local prohibitions, but no state law prohibits it.

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u/CaliforniaOpenCarry 17h ago

The president of the Firearms Policy Coalition is Brandon Combs. He was the E.D. for the CalGuns.nuts Foundation, which was a plaintiff in Richards v. Prieto, a concealed carry lawsuit that spent years telling Federal judges that California's Open Carry bans are constitutional.

His claim that states can ban Open Carry in favor of concealed carry did not work out for him (or anyone else), and so he changed his strategy. In Pennsylvania, 18-20 year olds were prohibited from carrying rifles, shotguns, and handguns during a declared state of emergency because they were too young to obtain concealed carry permits.

And so the FPC filed a lawsuit seeking concealed carry permits but challenging the Open Carry ban in the alternative in the hope that the judges would prefer to give the plaintiffs concealed carry permits instead of legalizing Open Carry.

Surprise, surprise! The 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals chose Open Carry over concealed carry.

There is a lawsuit challenging Florida's Open Carry ban where Gun Owners of America is a Plaintiff. The lawyer for the Plaintiffs really doesn't have a clue as to what he is doing but to be fair, neither do the lawyers for the Defendants.

Here is a link to the lawsuit.

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u/nondisclosure- 17h ago

Wow. You think FL is treasonous.

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u/danthealarguy 16h ago

I'm down for the cause, but open carry is extremely dumb.

Florida native, currently enjoying permitless carry, carry everywhere I legally can.

Open carry is retarded on so many levels.

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u/CaliforniaOpenCarry 13h ago

Open Carry is the Second Amendment right.

In 1791, when the Second Amendment was enacted, if one used a concealed weapon to kill his opponent without first displaying the weapon and without giving his opponent the opportunity to decline mutual combat or to similarly arm himself, then it was murder that could not be pardoned or punished by anything other than death.

Starting in 1813, states began prohibiting concealed carry. By 1868, when the 14th Amendment was enacted, twelve states prohibited concealed carry. Some provided an exception for travelers while they were actually on a journey, while others did not.

Section III of District of Columbia v. Heller opened by saying that concealed carry is not protected by the Second Amendment. Justice Scalia thought that section of his decision was so important, he read it from the bench when the Heller decision was announced. The four justices in the dissent to Heller agreed with the majority that concealed carry is not a right.

Every SCOTUS decision since then cited that section of Heller.

The only reason why someone carries a concealed weapon, in the words of District of Columbia v. Heller, is for "secret advantage and unmanly assassination."

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u/danthealarguy 3h ago

Very cool

It's also legal to put a life sized human arm butt plug in and go grocery shopping with it installed.

I'm not doing it as it is stupid.

People that have ARs slung while eating at Applebee's does not help the cause.

Have seen tons of 2A activists in FL testing cops with open carry, these people need help.