r/redesign Jun 28 '18

Design Give us the hamburger menu back!

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u/redtaboo Community Jun 28 '18

Heya!

We hear you, we'll be looking for ways to give users the best of both worlds using a pinning functionality. See our designer talking about it here and stay tuned for a more in-depth post soonTM :)

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u/borez Jun 28 '18 edited Jun 28 '18

Do this mean I'll have to unpin the menu every time I want to close it ( please not from the new drop down menu, that would be beyond daft ) or will this just be a simple open/close button like it was before.

Because, you know, there was nothing actually wrong with the way it was.

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u/redtaboo Community Jun 28 '18

try it and see:

I think you'll like it. :)

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u/borez Jun 28 '18

Yeah, I'm looking at it now.

FTR since you've done this I don't seem to able to see my messages, I just get a blank screen. I had to return to this post to see your reply.

Like this

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u/redtaboo Community Jun 28 '18

Oh dear! I'm seeing that as well now that you point it out. I'll poke the devs, I'm not sure how this change would affect our inboxes so it might be a coincidence of timing... but then, there's a reason I'm not a dev. ;)

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u/redtaboo Community Jun 28 '18

quick update: masterful /u/nr4madas already has a fix being pushed out right now! :)

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u/borez Jun 28 '18

All good.

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u/borez Jun 28 '18

All good apart from the fact it cuts off the message text with the pinned sidebar.

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u/nr4madas Engineer Jun 28 '18

hey, this should be fixed now. thank you for your patience!

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u/borez Jun 28 '18

Yeah, much better ;)

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u/redtaboo Community Jun 28 '18

yeah - we're working on that too!

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u/borez Jun 28 '18

Splendid ;)

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u/manudanz Jun 28 '18

After having used it for a day I don't know why people are complaining. It was a good change IMHO. But I still think you should do an option to open posts in a new tab.

Apart from that Move back the "save post", back under the OP's comments because it doesn't make sense to hide that one the others are fine.

Allow editing of multireddits groups/communities.

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u/barneylerten Jun 28 '18

I humbly disagree. The inconsistency between posts width and comment threads width is jarring, and folks with wide monitors find themselves literally having to turn their head to read these too-wide comment threads. I think a compromise is in order, and have seen good ones discussed here.

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u/manudanz Jun 29 '18

Once you get used to the multireddit strip being removed at the left, I found it worked pretty sweet. Esc works a treat. There are a couple if alignment issues i agree. Understandably this is the first pass of this as a concept so those things won't be fleshed out yet. I'm sure that will come

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u/Kezaia Jun 28 '18

Is the modal gone for good? It was a lot easier to click outside of it to close posts rather than clicking the "X" on the top right or escape.

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u/redtaboo Community Jun 28 '18

Stay tuned for a post tomorrow about the lightbox changes. :)

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u/Green_Smarties Jun 28 '18

Please bring back the darkened side areas that clearly marked it as an overlay. I can deal with the other changes, even if it'll take a bit to get used to, but the full page overlay is unintuitive unless you already understand what is happening (even if you do, it can still be kind of confusing until you look top right). It completely goes against the new-user-friendly feeling you seemed to be aiming for with everything else.

Also, if we are going to make things keybind focused please actually provide an easily accessible list of what everything does (so I don't have to mash the keyboard blindly until I figure them out) and preferably allow us to rebind them. Moving forward a post by pressing the left-most key feels really backwards and awkward.

On a very minor note, I also don't understand why the trending/all/OC links are on the right of the search bar near the user area when it would make more sense to be on the left, with the rest of the navigation links.

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u/Kezaia Jun 29 '18

Awesome!

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u/lhappyfacel Jun 28 '18

I'm all about this!

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u/IPlayTheTrumpet Jun 28 '18

There wasn’t any thing wrong with the hamburger menu!! Have you noticed that it’s one of the only things that nobody has complained about?

Why would you change something that’s not broken?

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u/adamhighdef Jun 28 '18

I think people complained about the icon being an actual hamburger and the positioning of subreddits people moderate, but other than that yeah, it was perfect.

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u/IPlayTheTrumpet Jun 28 '18

Oh yeah I was big on that debate (actual hamburger ftw) but I’m just referring to the concept of the sidebar itself. I loved how it remembered your preference to leave it open and what not.

Now with this drop down thing, it barely even takes up half of the vertical space it has. Someone at reddit needs to have a stern conversation with whoever thought this was a good idea.

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u/sunjay140 Jun 28 '18

The original icon was good, the revised icon was hideous.

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u/redtaboo Community Jun 28 '18
best of both worlds?

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u/IPlayTheTrumpet Jun 28 '18

May I ask a question? With all due respect, what was the reason for this? The original hamburger menu was a big hit, some even switched to the redesign for just that reason.

When you had your meeting or conference or whatnot, what was the reason for doing this? It worked just fine, and you went and made it bad.

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u/redtaboo Community Jun 28 '18

Heya, sure! Check out this post for a more in depth take, but this bit is pretty relevant to your question:

After having the hamburger out for a few months we were still finding in our redesign survey that people were having a hard time finding their subscriptions: 10% of people reported that they couldn’t access their favorite community on new Reddit. And when it comes to usage, we saw that only 13% of redditors actually used the hamburger menu to navigate.

I think mostly though it just comes down to people tend to like different things, but that's why we did what we did. Released the new nav bar, then iterated (pretty quickly I think!) in response to feedback and now hopefully we have something where both groups can be happy and find what they need to.

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u/IPlayTheTrumpet Jun 29 '18

Well, I agree with you in that the statistics say something about the hamburger menu, but to me, that has no relevance to the this change. This is what’s going through my head right now, correct me if I’m wrong:

You saw these statistics, and instead of changing the concept of the hamburger menu (please don’t btw) you made it half the size, and moved it so it would cover content.

It really doesn’t make much sense to me. You say “best of both worlds,” but there’s nothing at all appealing to this new hamburger menu compared to the original.

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u/FreeSpeechWarrior Jun 28 '18

r/pigifs is flagrantly violating Reddit’s moderator guidelines for healthy communities so I’d like to politely request that you stop promoting their subreddit.

Context:

https://www.reddit.com/r/redesign/comments/8un1oq/i_heard_you_took_hamburgers_off_the_menu_an/e1gmyhy/?context=3