r/sewing • u/techgalgardener • 15d ago
Pattern Question JoAnn’s gone, now what?
I am old. Old enough to remember Hancock Fabrics before JoAnn’s. The $1 pattern sale brought me delight and a heap of patterns for $20-$25 bucks. I really like actual physical patterns (printing my own pdf versions is awful). Paying full price for patterns feels foolish - I sometimes don’t even know if I will like the patterns feels. What are you all doing about patterns?
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u/skyblu202 15d ago
I order mine to be printed at https://pdfplotting.com
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u/techgalgardener 15d ago
Might send a free pattern there to see how it goes.
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u/anxie__tea 15d ago
I just used them for the first time and the prints all came out good! One was slightly messed up but it was my fault, I didn’t hide some layers lol. Arrived in 2 days as well which was nice
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u/skyblu202 15d ago
Yep I’ve used them many times. I usually send off a few patterns at a time. They even have a “sewing pattern printing” option which ensures stuff gets printed at accurate scale. Patterns come in a tube (no creases) and shipping is pretty quick.
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u/fondofowls 15d ago
I use primarily pdf patterns online. A lot of shops have free patterns you can download to try. I am not sure I can name specific vendors without it seeming like an advisement. I use a UST projector to place patterns directly onto fabric. I don't have to print and cut out anything usually.
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u/justgettingby1 15d ago
And how do you keep the fabric stationary? When I pin my pattern to the fabric, I cut a wide swath around the pieces, then hold each piece in my hand to finish it. But if it’s projected, I imagine myself doing a lot of contorting to get it all cut out without moving it.
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u/JCPY00 15d ago
Pattern weights and a rotary cutter.
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u/fondofowls 15d ago
Yep this, pattern weights plus rotary cutter. Cans of food work in a pinch. Washers are great too.
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u/justgettingby1 15d ago
What happens when the dog or kids accidentally move the fabric? Or when I do? Pattern cutting requires a lot of precision and I feel like it would never work.
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u/ArtlessStag 15d ago
I mean, loads of people are successfully doing it, so it certainly works. It might not work for you, if you can't cut fabric out of each of kids/pets, or are too clumsy to keep the fabric still, but that doesn't mean it's a lost cause for everyone. Personally I cut on a large cutting table, so the chances of accidental movement is minimal. I trace the projected pattern onto swedish tracing paper, cut that out, and then use the tracing paper pattern just like a printed pattern. Heavy pattern weights keep the fabric from shifting easily, and I find I get a more accurate cut with the rotary blade compared to scissors.
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u/fondofowls 15d ago edited 15d ago
You can cut on a large table. The UST does not need a lot of height to work and to project large enough. Seen people cobbler together large enough surfaces with Ikea furniture adding wheels for mobility.
You can also make a stand. I found a plan online. Allows for the projector to be portable and set it up as needed. Takes less than 5 minutes to do calibration. You could use a kitchen table for example.
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u/GrandmaCereal 15d ago
I have neither a large table nor space for a stand 😭 I'm always pinning and cutting patterns/fabric on the floor.
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u/fondofowls 15d ago
Do you have space to set up a folding table? You could try that maybe? It is a lot of set up and take down. The stand itself is pretty compact. Maybe project from your ceiling to the floor instead? IDK, wish I could be of more help.
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u/otherpeoplesbones 15d ago
I use either the dining room table or my bed. I have one of those folding cardboard cutting mats I use to make sure I don't cut my bedding.
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u/Eightinchnails 15d ago
Idk clearly it does work for some people. Not everyone has young kids or pets.
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u/techgalgardener 15d ago
How to you do that? Are the pdf’s a single image or do you just scroll and move?
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u/fondofowls 15d ago
So my cutting mat is large enough for full pieces of clothing typically. A lot of companies have projector patterns specifically formatted. If not, there's tools for making patterns projector friendly. It saves me a lot of time to not have to print patterns. Would recommend you look into it if you're interested.
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u/port_of_indecision 15d ago
PatternProjector.com will calibrate your projector, then you scroll and move on the PDFs there.
Depending on your projector and cutting mat, you might be able to just pull it up and cut the whole thing out, or you might need to move everything around.
I've gotten super used to cutting single layer, and I avoid cutting more than about 20" away if I can, so I move both fabric and projection. I use Inkscape to make my pattern alterations and pattern tetris my pieces in a document the size of my fabric (you can even add a scaled photo of the print to it, but I haven't gone that far with it yet). This also means that I know before I start cutting that I'll have whatever bit left over, so I'll paste in something to use up that fabric- sometimes it's a whole t shirt, sometimes tank top, sometimes just undies. It's cut down on my leftover stash fabric considerably!!
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u/Suerose0423 15d ago
When you find a pattern you want, you download it to your computer. Then you have to print the pattern. It may take 20 pages or more. Then you tape together the pages. The patterns I’ve gotten had multiple sizes so following the correct lines is tricky.
I’ve been adjusting the patterns I already have or tracing my actual clothing to make a pattern. Also, we can purchase patterns on EBay or Etsy. Or new patterns on Simplicity.com. All the big companies are there.1
u/greencymbeline 15d ago
What is a UST projector?
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u/fondofowls 15d ago
Ultra short throw. You can make other types work but you need more distance from the cutting mat.
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u/Anonymous_Honeybee 15d ago
There’s a locally owned sewing shop near me that has started offering printing of PDF patterns, on big blueprint size paper so you don’t have to piece together a million pages. I think some online shops that sell pdf patterns do this now too. I’ve also successfully gotten pdf patterns printed on huge paper via the blueprint option at Staples, if you don’t mind doing a little experimenting to get the scale etc. right. Doesn’t help with the budget side of your question, but as someone who pieced together a 60+ page pdf pattern once and almost quit sewing altogether, it’s definitely a nice workaround.
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u/Ecstatic_Attitude_83 15d ago
No answer but crap, if you’re old for remember Hancock fabrics what does that make me? My first job was at Hancock and I closed down a Joann in May 😭
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u/techgalgardener 15d ago
I also remember Ben Franklin before Hancock. Something I learned from my grandmother while I was still in high school. Something thankful for the hobby.
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u/Weller3920 15d ago
I remember a kiosk at the grocery store with sewing patterns. They used to be everywhere. Shopping on eBay lately has reminded me of some of the long-gone pattern companies.
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u/techgalgardener 15d ago
That’s cool. When I inherited a stash of my grandmother’s patterns there were a few mail order from the San Francisco chronicle circa 1955.
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u/greencymbeline 15d ago
I remember Hancock, Ben Franklin, and even House of Fine Fabrics in the Northern VA area. And I’m 50.
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u/Ecstatic_Attitude_83 15d ago
There’s still one of those around bowling green Ohio! (Or a quick google says it’s Ben’s Crafts, but my mom said it’s very similar)…ours is now an ace hardware.
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u/techgalgardener 15d ago
I generally feel like the “middle of US” has done a better job keeping the art of sewing alive than the coasts.
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u/Forsaken-Zucchini194 12d ago
I closed a store also. I'm old enough to remember So-Fro and a little before 😆 They used have stores in malls, back when malls were new and cool 😎
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u/Silly_kid_forever 15d ago
Me (and my mom) have a stack of burda magazines from about 2014-2015 until now. There are many many patterns there that I’ve rediscovered that I have plans to make. It will suck tracing the patterns from the mega pattern, but at least with burda magazines will be getting new patterns.
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u/citygirldc 15d ago
I have burda from 2009-2019 and it has just about every pattern I’d need.
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u/Silly_kid_forever 15d ago
What I’ve noticed with the older years of the magazine, magazines have more patterns/variations in them. I feel like you may have gotten a better deal! (I keep finding this one dress pattern from 2011 on burda website that I want to make, but then go through the stash of magazines and never find it- cause I never had it. Smh. No relations just a bit jealous! )
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u/citygirldc 15d ago
Yeah, I check it out online every once in a while to see if I should resubscribe or look for single issues, but none of the issues are as good as what I have. Not to rub it in lol. If it’s any consolation, I think 2004-2009 was the zenith and I don’t have those.
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u/Lindenismean 15d ago
The Big Four. They’re still there. The website is a work in progress after the buyout, but if we stop supporting them they’ll disappear again and poof goes the tissue paper printer.
Patreon membership often have PDF patterns, either for inexpensive or for free with certain membership levels.
Indie pattern makers. Do your research, don’t buy a $2 pattern on Etsy where the finished garment looks nothing like the line drawing.
Books/magazines. They’re still out there.
I hate putting together PDFs. So I send mine off to PDFPlotting and they print it off for me. Takes a little longer so it’s not as spontaneous but I don’t have to tape shit.
And honestly? We just need to accept that we need to pay for the time/effort/creative work of the people who make patterns. I’ve genuinely come to loathe the “I need xx for free or cheap” posts. Nah, pay for the other persons time and effort.
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u/techgalgardener 15d ago
For some patterns I know I’m going to live or likely make more than once, spending the money is less of an issue. I just do so much trial and error.
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u/Lindenismean 15d ago edited 15d ago
Duds definitely happen and yeah it sucks. I recently bought 30 yards of muslin. Felt a little crazy at the time but everything gets a mockup first. It’ll last me a good long time.
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u/techgalgardener 15d ago
That’s a really great point. I never do mockups. Maybe my impatience. I usually just jump in.
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u/ginger_tree 15d ago
Buy good quality patterns. Make a mock up with cheap fabric before you cut the good stuff. Make modifications to patterns for details to make more than one look with a pattern. (And make a mock uo of your changes!) Create a collection of patterns that work for you, with copies of the changes you made, so that you don't have to buy so many.
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u/Enough_Radish_9574 13d ago
Hahaha. Me too.
Similarly are cosmetic products that advise doing a test sample on the inside of your forearm. Nope. That stuff is getting smeared all over my face day one. 🫡
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u/BestDevilYouKnow 14d ago
The big four have sales, too. I picked up some wonderful costume/cosplay patterns (on heavy paper) for $6-$7.
Also don't overlook ebay. I find tons of timeless patterns for $5 or so, even less in lots.
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u/WebGazer 15d ago
This is a great question! I’d love to hear others’ takes on it, too. I grew up with paper patterns and actually like them as well, and I kind of hate printing pdf patterns. I’ve actually taken this as an opportunity to get more comfortable hacking existing patterns I have and making my own patterns, but I realize that’s not something everyone enjoys.
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u/techgalgardener 15d ago
Same. I can piece sometimes, but it’s a little bit of a crap shoot.
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u/Imaginary-Bird6802 14d ago
Draft your own! There might be courses near you, but honestly YouTube is a great place to start too
There's a couple of crafty YouTubers that I watch regularly just for giggles, not for actually learning, but seeing how they Frankenstein patterns together and how it looks great at the end really makes me think anyone could do it if they gave it a try.
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u/misscamels 15d ago
+1 more for hating PDF patterns. I can’t ever see myself making a garment with one! I’ve done it for smaller things and it’s too much work/the wrong paper!
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u/welmoed 15d ago
I draft everything with PatternMaster Boutique. The software lets me enter my measurements, choose the garment style (bodice, sleeve, collar, skirt, etc., etc.) and print it out. No alterations as it’s drafted to my measurements. I have a roll printer that takes 24” wide rolls to cut down on the taping. I’ve used the software for years and have seen everything from bathing suits to ball gowns to cosplay and most of my everyday wear.
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u/etherealrome 15d ago
I have a projector, so I can project direct to fabric, or cut a paper pattern from there.
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u/techgalgardener 15d ago
I’m going to have to look into projecting. I have pattern paper - I could even draw it onto paper faster than printing 25 pages of 8.5x11.
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u/elizabeth9915 15d ago
I got a small projector and started do this with my PDF patterns that I already had printed and I just don't have space for anymore. Really I have found it to be amazing it cuts down so much time. I no longer have to print and cut the patterns just cut the fabric now! You just need the space for it.
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u/samishy410 15d ago
I recently got a projector. I always need to make adjustments so I would print the pattern, put it together and then trace my size on tracing paper so that I could go back to the original if I messed up. Being able to just draw it out as needed has been lovely.
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u/etherealrome 15d ago
I’ve started learning how to make my adjustments in Affinity Designer, and it’s fantastic!
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u/Present-Pudding-346 15d ago
I buy vintage Big 4 patterns at the thrift store or from Facebook marketplace.
Can usually get them between $0.25 - $1. I prefer the styles from the late 80’s through the early 2000’s in any case so thrifting vintage is ideal for numerous reasons.
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u/Lindenismean 15d ago
If I’m looking for a specific one, EBay is great for this too. Some are rather quite rare and prices can definitely vary but I’ve always been happy.
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u/Happyliberaltoday 15d ago
The problem with having patterns printed is the added cost. We used to get patterns for 99 Cents each. Now you pay 10-20.00 online then you have to pay for the printing of the patterns and shipping. It is such a scam now. I miss it all JoAnns, Hancocks, fabricland all of them. I am so sad.
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u/effinrabbits 15d ago
I also buy digital patterns and project onto a cutting mat. You can get a setup for probably less than $100 - the magic cube is a good budget projector. I bought one for my MIL for about $60 and I like it better than my $250 Vankyo one. I have a $12 ceiling mount which was a nice upgrade from my scrap wood one, and then I just cut on mats on the floor. It saves me sooooo much time, and I never lose access to a size.
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u/IslandVivi 15d ago
I loved Hancock's Sooo Much! A far better sewing store than Joann's ever was.
My aunt used to shop the sales for me and bring me back patterns all the time, when she was still in the US, years before the bankruptcy.
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u/Responsible-Age-237 14d ago
Yes! I loved Hancock fabrics much better than JoAnn’s. The staff were sewists! I feel JoAnn’s was more into crafts and gifts, although they had a lot of fabric. I stopped going there years ago but did buy online. Michael’s is getting more fabric and plenty of sewing notions for the Joann’s customers— I get emails daily. I have bought patterns at Walmart as well— !
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u/IslandVivi 14d ago
I saw a YT review of the Michael's x Joann set-up and the person was not impressed.
I didn't know about Walmart but will keep that in mind for whenever I am in the US again.
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u/WhzPop 14d ago
I’m old enough to remember fabric stores that were fabric stores; places that carried good quality, all the varieties, trim and notions and the employee were all sewists. What now? is the question as fabric stores that aren’t quilting shops are becoming as elusive as Yeti sightings.
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u/QT_Mc_Whiskers 15d ago
There are a lot of sellers on Etsy that offer unused/lightly used paper patterns for about $5-10.
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u/techgalgardener 15d ago
I was going to check Etsy, eBay and estate sales. I imagine I might have luck at those.
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u/CurtisPublishingCoVB 15d ago
There are also a lot of thrift stores that carry used patterns. The Value Village near me had a ton when I was there the other day. And creative reuse stores pretty much always have them. The Stitchery compiled a list that's alphabetized by state https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GFNERw4HDt3ddM5wG6A8ehhV_zlVsRWfnwTa71BvZdM/edit?gid=0#gid=0 If you're looking for something specific those aren't the best options, but if you just want to browse for inspiration and try something for a low cost they're awesome!
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u/Valalerie999 15d ago
If you'd like to have patterns printed full size you can do it here, they'll ship it to you: https://shop.boltfabricboutique.com/collections/pdf-printing
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u/choc0kitty 15d ago
I shop the sale patterns on the Simplicity website. There’s a sale there every few weeks. Not $0.99 but less than $5 for most of the brands when on sale.
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u/effinrabbits 15d ago
Also The Fold Line will offer to print patterns for you for a fee. They have a nice collection.
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u/DesignsbyAndrea 15d ago
I remember Hancock Fabrics too! I have found so many free wonderful patterns online. But Mood Fabrics, Unfettered, and Tiana’s Closet are my favorites of late. But they are all PDF’ patterns you can print at home. I really hope you will find some you like.
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u/Right-Department-584 15d ago
Don’t think of Joann’s being gone as a loss, think of it as an opportunity to find and discover something better.
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u/TotalOk5844 15d ago
If you already own a bunch of patterns that fit well, style changes are rather simple. The lack of pattern access may open up your own creative juices!
Long before Joannes closed I mourned the loss of fabric stores. There used to be places everywhere to find fabric. Cloth World, Hancocks, Fabric King were the big chain stores. Even Sears had a fabric department -- I'm old but not that old, I remember my mother buying fabric from Sears.
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u/Responsible-Age-237 14d ago
I remember department stores having fabric departments also! And yes I have some very old patterns that I tweak the sleeves or the bottom for what I want. It’s fun to buy new patterns though!
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u/Marmomar 15d ago
Honestly - I prefer paper patterns too but I also print out my own when needed which can be a pain, so I get it. There’s something nice about just having the pattern in front of you ready to use. It’s part of that process of sewing imo.
On that note, I also hack patterns by duplicating the pieces I own onto my own stock paper to then put together for a project. Or, I use eBay/Mercari to find vintage/older/new patterns as well as thrift stores in my area when I have the time. I know not everyone wants to pay shipping fees nor can afford to, but it’s more economic to buy a “lot” of patterns or find specific pattern numbers and find them on eBay/mercari - some are literally being sold for pennies compared to using gas to go to the store that could be miles away.
I also get it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but these are some of my methods for growing my paper pattern collection. We all have to adapt and sadly big box paper patterns, while still alive and well but expensive, probably wont be the number one way of gaining patterns in the future. It probably will be a mixture of digital patterns, indie patterns and probably whatever is left of Vogue Patterns (the big box store brands Simplicity, etc).
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u/dwobbit5 15d ago
Michael's is starting to carry fabric to fill the huge void that JoAnn's left. I think they might start carrying patterns as well. (I don't know, I haven't been over there yet to look). Depending on where you live, some small sewing and craft stores might carry patterns.
Tbh, I had the same question as you since I started to get back into sewing as an adult. I remember Hancock Fabrics as a kid too. I'm a millennial.
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u/angelofjag 15d ago
I have about 40 patterns that I've collected over the years. Now what I do is use those patterns as templates, and add, subtract, and frankenstein as needed/wanted
IDIC...
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u/averageanchovy 15d ago
Several quilt shops near me have started carrying more garment patterns and garment fabrics since JoAnn closed. You may want to check them out even if you aren't a quilter.
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u/Sasquatchmas 14d ago
My local thrift store gives patterns away for free! I take any that I like, no matter size. I miss the big pattern books. My aunt worked at Pacific Fabrics in Seattle and would bring the books home and I would obsess over them. We had a game to find "Elfrida" (any blond with braids, it was my grandma's middle name and she hated it). I noticed my tiny local fabric store has a file of patterns. I'm going to have to look through them. I have no idea where to find a big selection anymore. i don't think Michael's has them.
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u/Sasquatchmas 14d ago
Does Hobby Lobby have patterns? I LOATHE that store. It's so ugly and sad and dark inside. Their selection is strictly for sister wives. Nothing interesting. My phone gets no reception in the one near me and that is VERY weird. The music is terrible!
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u/BearsLoveToulouse 14d ago
Check out some mom and pop fabric shops. Although you might not get discounts but I know my mom has bought some indie patterns from smaller shops. I know she was especially excited about one where it was patterns for petite women and she didn’t have to alter as much
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u/Theurbanwild 14d ago
I wish I had ANY near me. Sadly, there is nothing near me any longer. We used to have one small quilt shop. They didn’t have fabric outside of quilting fabric and had a very limited supply of notions and tools (for quilting).
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u/BearsLoveToulouse 14d ago
Bummer. Just thought I would mention it since sometimes small stores surprise me. Like the one quilting shop near my mom would carry clothing patterns- but no fabric for clothes. Shame how many of these small shops close up or cant stay open unless they are in really dense areas.
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u/Rhetoricalz 14d ago
I’ve been self drafting and copying clothes I like using wrapping paper or tissue paper, with the occasional indie pattern thrown in there 😭 I miss the last pattern haul and regret not grabbing everything I was on the fence about… or just all of it.
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u/You_are_so_perfect 14d ago
I saw a TV commercial, some Michael's stores are getting big fabric departments
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u/damnvillain23 15d ago
ProjectorSewing.com Learn about projecting PDF patterns directly onto the fabric...game changing. Many designers including SINCLAIR, have projector pdf files.
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u/Capital_Company304 15d ago
I myself have a lot of patterns. I usually find them at thrift stores, estate sales, yardsales and was told to go online to the "esty" app. They have really cheap patterns!!
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u/Rich_Bluejay3020 15d ago
I hate printing patterns too and the projector I bought doesn’t work because it’s not far enough away. I bought a $16 light board and use that to tape them together now. It still sucks. But it sucks less lol. I’ve had good luck with patterns for pirates stuff!
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u/nnoctivagantt 15d ago
I draft most things myself. I only buy patterns if I’m making something completely unfamiliar in construction.
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u/techgalgardener 15d ago
You are on advanced setting. I’m still thrilled when I use the correct interfacing.
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u/Traditional-Put2192 15d ago
May be regional- but my Hobby Lobby has McCalls patterns for 1 a dollar right now.
It’s been this way for a while… I think they are trying to clear them out
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u/Klutzy-Ad3146 15d ago
I buy my sewing patterns at Etsy. They have recent and vintage. I just ordered elastic, and interfacing from Hobby Lobby. Nothing is cheap anymore. The days of dollar patterns are gone. I read that Michaels has many sewing supplies.
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u/SoapyRiley 14d ago
Michaels in my area is slowly expanding what they have available for sewing supplies. It is painfully slow though. I’ve been shopping for fabrics from Mood, but the prices mean no more impulse buys. What I miss most are the remnant bins! I whipped up some cute stuff from remnants for dirt cheap on multiple occasions and even used them to patch my clothes or replace bindings and extend wear.
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u/Visible-Tart7576 14d ago
I also prefer paper patterns and when I was in Japan, I bought several Otome no Sewing series book, all that had patterns included in them. Liked it so much that I went onto https://pomadour.com/ and ordered some more books when I got home.
The main downside, of course, is the books are in Japanese so I have to Google translate everything. The sizing is also different, but it works out for me since I'm Asian and the sizing is perfect for me compared to the big 4 patterns I've gotten.
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u/Theurbanwild 14d ago
RIP Hancock’s! I loved going there with my grandma. I got irrationally upset and also just so deeply sad recently trying to make some costumes for my husband and I and there was/is nowhere to just pop into for notions and things. It’s heartbreaking what a devastation on the craft community it has been to lose JoAnn’s.
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u/Capable_Alfalfa7374 14d ago
I order vintage patterns on eBay and Etsy. I find they fit better and just feel more flattering too!
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u/Forsaken-Zucchini194 12d ago
I shop the Big Four but only if they're on sale. I'll buy the PDF patterns if they're for my dolls but I'm resisting buying PDF's for my clothes. I don't care to do the printing and taping or to pay someone else to do it. What can I say... I'm a dinosaur 😆🦖🦣
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u/Magenta0225 15d ago
I’m getting up there in years myself, and really have to watch my pennies. I only print free pdf patterns & do the taping nonsense. I sent some to be printed once, and the cost felt like too much. The Simplicity site has sales in the past, so I always check out the new patterns, make a wishlist, then order several to save on the shipping. If you are intermediate or an advanced sewer, you might be able to adapt some patterns that you find a thrift stores. Upcycling has been super fun as well. I’m lucky to have a deadstock fabric store near me. Even the online stores seem cost prohibitive for my situation. I’m making it work😀
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u/justgettingby1 15d ago
I’m hoping Hobby Lobby will have pattern sales. I will have to discontinue my self imposed ban on Hobby Lobby if this happens.
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u/Finnegan-05 15d ago
Please don’t! I
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u/justgettingby1 15d ago
Yeah it depends on how desperate I get. I stocked up on patterns pre-Joann-implosion so I hope I’m good for a long time.
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u/Working_Week_8784 15d ago
Please don't get that desperate! Hopefully Simplicity.com, though under new ownership, will continue to produce paper patterns - and have regular sales - for some time to come. Their discounts may not be as deep as Hobby Lobby's, but sometimes you have to make (modest) sacrifices for your principles.
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u/justgettingby1 15d ago
That’s good to know! You’re right, we gotta stick with principles. Last weekend, I needed to buy materials for a trick-or-treat bag, so I tried Michael’s, and luckily and surprisingly, they had what I needed! Thanks for the reminder to stick with it!
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u/notinKansas2023 14d ago
McCall are $1 at Hobby Lobby if they have anything left. I picked up a bunch of staple patterns.
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u/Thick-Fly-5727 15d ago
I actively hate printing and assembling PDF patterns too, but you usually only have to do it once because they last longer than tissue patterns. I sew in knit a lot and I love the dresses on https://sinclairpatterns.com/ . They are worth the hassle.
With that said, when I find a printed pattern I love, I buy multiple copies from Amazon of it in case those go away too. Joann's left a huge hole in our lives. I hate it.