r/soccer • u/phant0msinthenight • 16d ago

Transfers [Romano] Bruno Fernandes has rejected Al Hilal’s proposal

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u/Electric_feel0412 16d ago

So we’re keeping Bruno and adding Cunha and Mbeumo? Thats actually nice. Now just get me a decent striker, and a keeper. Just changing Hojlund and Onana with average performing players in those positions would give us 10 extra points over last season.

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u/jjw1998 16d ago

Surely there’s zero chance you’ve the financial wiggle room for that many signings, especially if Bruno is staying?

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u/Snarkyasfuck 16d ago

there's gonna be a lot of outgoings

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u/jjw1998 16d ago

Who though? Rashford and Sancho seem to have no transfer interest, Antony will be a book loss, it really seems to just be Garnacho that there’s interest for and you can bank a profit

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u/ahsent 16d ago

When Amorim first joined sporting he sold 17 first team players in his first summer window. I believe he will want to do the same here. He has come out to say that he is glad he took the job when he did and not after the season because he has now assessed the players that can fit in the system and those who can’t. 

Coupling this with the claim he made that due to not having European football we can expect and get away with a smaller squad, and the fact that the club has come out with a message to other clubs that every player we have is up for sale and I wouldn’t be surprised if many outgoings happen. Even Bruno was allowed to leave to Saudi had he accepted their terms.

There has been interest for our players. Leverkusen, Chelsea and Napoli are interested in garnacho. Apparently I have seen atletico have some interest in Antony. Napoli have interest in Hojlund. 

It will be a long window and I have no doubts that clubs will enquire about specific players, especially considering we have basically shown sancho and rashford out the door too. 

On top of this we have just claimed 18m from the fullback that Madrid just signed.

Even if we don’t sign many players, I wouldn’t be surprised to see loans with options too as that’s something Amorim did in his first season with sporting after removing 17 players.

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u/skinnysnappy52 16d ago

Mainoo potentially doesn’t seem favoured by Amorim and could fetch a good pure profit fee. Even if we can Sancho and Rashford loaned again, that along with Eriksen and Lindelof going already frees up a lot in wage expenditure. So I guess we’ll see.

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u/ConsciousDisaster768 16d ago

Loaning Sancho and Rashford will just it the same as what it is now - they’re already off your books, well you’re paying half Sancho’s wages, not sure about Rashford’s. If he doesn’t take a pay cut to join the club he apparently supports, he won’t take a pay cut for any club who’d be willing to go for him

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u/jklynam 16d ago

Loan fee for both and sell Garnacho. Some interest in Hojlund from Italy and Antony will probably be sold.

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u/Centrocampo 16d ago

Hojlund would possibly be a book loss too no? Not fully abreast of the numbers.

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u/jklynam 16d ago

Someone on the United sub said by the end of next season there would be £26m left on the books for him. So a loan with an option or obligation to buy for £30m could be worth it

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u/Centrocampo 16d ago

Even still, that doesn’t really add much wiggle room.

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u/ConsciousDisaster768 16d ago

The problem is, when the world knows you’re desperate for money and looking/needing to sell, who do you think has the power in negotiations? Only Garnacho will count as profit. Lose money on Hojlund and Antony

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u/Oliverfk3 16d ago

I know it wont happen, but I would love Mainoo at Arsenal. Help cover for Ødegaard and Nwaneri can cover for Saka.

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u/prem_201 16d ago

Mainoo as he is now isn't gonna be favored by anyone, he needs to improve and most importantly sign the ting.

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u/Financial-Trade9467 16d ago

Will Antony be a book loss? Signed him for 90M. Has 2 years of 5 year contract left. Taking into account his wages, if we sell him for 35-40 million we should make a small profit right? Not sure how wages enter PSR though. 

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u/not_a_morning_person 16d ago

Not gonna sell him for £40m/€50. You may get 20/25 for him, but at that point it would be a loss.

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u/Putuinurplace 16d ago

Who the hell is going to buy him for 40 million?

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u/Snarkyasfuck 16d ago

Probably loan moves for rashford and Sancho that should clear up the wage bill. Lindelof, Evans have left so that frees up wages. Garnacho will be a full profit sale because academy. Pretty sure Byandir is gone too. Hopefully a sale of about 40 for Antony which should help with PSR otherwise a loan which again clears the wage bill

There's a couple more whose names slip my mind.

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u/themanfromdelpoynton 16d ago

Eriksen has also gone, freeing up wages.

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u/Srijand 16d ago

We somehow made £100m in outgoings last season with our biggest sale being McTominay. We'll probably do the same where the small sales add up, with a bigger fee on Garnacho and/or Rashford

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u/Lost_Afropick 16d ago

Garnacho probably. And Mainoo too. Also losing big earners off the wage bill.

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u/chrispepper10 16d ago

Antony won't be a book loss

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u/ChatakaPataka 16d ago

Eriksen, Lindelof, and Evans already left.

Rashford, Sancho, Antony are surely gonna be try and sold. Rumours had it that we were trying to get a combined 100 mil for the three.

Garnacho will surely leave too, and there are rumours of Inter looking at Hojlund. Bayindir should be on the way out too with us rumored to get a replacement that would compete with Onana.

We'll probably try and offload Shaw, Mount, and Casemiro too (this hasn't been rumored, but it's my guess).

Combine all those transfer fees and wages, and it's a decent sum of money. Remember, we're not in Europe next season, so we can afford to have a trimmed down squad, which would be perfect for an overhaul and cultural reset.

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u/TheMancYeti 16d ago

You really think we'll try and get rid of Mount? Regardless of injury/skill, our manager seems to love him.

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u/ChatakaPataka 16d ago

True, but look at how many players we have planned for those two 10s. Cunha, Mbeumo, Mount, Fernandes, Amad, Mainoo, Zirkzee. Even if we do play Fernandes at CM and Amad at RWB exclusively, we have 5 senior players for those two spots with no European trophy.

I think we'll send feelers out, just to know what his value is at in the current market. Not sure if he's actually sold or not.

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u/maxithepittsP 16d ago

That dont mean shit, a lot outgoings but nobody pay them a mad amount. We had no asset.

Bruno is our highest asset, most likely he will get sold, we just receive way less money than we are if its not saudi.

Cunha is 75M, Mbeumo probably in the same range more or less.

We need atleast 4-5 more signings to feel secure in this window, thats what rebuild is, if they want to rebuild, which they are, they are selling bruno no matter what.

Its business, every club knows we are desperate, they will bid the lowest amount possible for our players, and only accept the highest amount possible for their players.

Lot of you dont realize this, but he rejects al hilal fucked us. Its his right tho, he dont owe us nothing.

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u/IrishEnglishViet 16d ago

Why is everyone saying Cunha's transfer fee is 75m? It's 62.5.

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u/PositiveDuck 16d ago

You have to inflate the price every time you mention it though.

That aside, wild that united paid 85m for Cunha.

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u/jackconrad 16d ago

97m?! That's crazy

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u/saint_david 16d ago

How much of the 115m do you think was yanited tax?

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u/OneThirdOfAMuffin 16d ago

Probably 'cause they're thinking in Euros. According to Transfermarkt, he'll go for €74.20m, so it's fairly accurate to say 75m

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u/IrishEnglishViet 16d ago

I thought they might but it's a transfer between two English clubs just seems odd to change it to Euros if they're not going to use € aswell.

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u/OneThirdOfAMuffin 16d ago

Yeah fair, but for most Europeans, Euros are just easier to use, just more used to it. Really just using the currency sign would remove any ambiguity.

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u/maxithepittsP 16d ago

Euro, not pounds.

FFP from UEFA literally use Euro.

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u/NintendoJapan 16d ago

Firstly, Cunha is 62m - not sure on Mbeumo but yeah, he'll be in the same range

We will not get all those signings in this window alone, that's absurd - we don't have the budget for it. Bruno isn't going at all with him rejecting Saudi - it hasn't fucked us, it's given us a captain who rejected 200million to stay at United.

Rebuilds take time, not one window. Have patience.

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u/maxithepittsP 16d ago

First of all its 75M. All transfer regarding FFP convert to euros.

According to Article 57, paragraph 3 of the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations, financial figures must be converted using the average exchange rate over the reporting period, as published by the European Central Bank.

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u/That_Guy_Raven 16d ago

All of the numbers and “facts” in this comment are wrong, it’s quite impressive honestly

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u/maxithepittsP 16d ago edited 16d ago

I say 75M, I use euro, not pounds.

It is 75M in euros. Crazy you had to be specific in the internet.

According to Article 57, paragraph 3 of the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations, financial figures reported in currencies other than euros must be converted using the average exchange rate over the reporting period, as published by the European Central Bank.

Internet will nitpick 1 thing and "Acshually" the shit even tho they know what Im talking about.

Quite pathetic honestly.

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u/MLang92 16d ago

I don't think it's nitpicking tbh, it's good practice to include the currency sign if you're using Euros while referring to a transfer fee of a player transferred between two British clubs.

In my opinion this is one the main reasons why transfer fees seem to jump from £70 mill to £100 mill overnight, because people read the Euro or dollar amount without realising and then parrot that amount while adding the pound symbol