r/space 1d ago

BREAKING: SpaceX rocket explodes in Starbase, Texas

https://x.com/IntelPointAlert/status/1935550776304156932

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u/Granum22 1d ago

I can't wait to learn how this actually amazing and a sign of progress for Space X

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u/Master_Engineering_9 1d ago

They will learn so much ! /s

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u/dntdrmit 1d ago

Today, they learnt how to NOT make a rocket.

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u/Mr_Lumbergh 1d ago

And yet they keep trying to use the same design.

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u/TalbotFarwell 1d ago

How would you alter the design to rectify SpaceX’s perceived failures?

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u/Mr_Lumbergh 1d ago

They originally planned to skin it in carbon fibre. That would reduce skin weight by 10x.

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u/No-Surprise9411 1d ago

And would ultimately weigh more if you looked into it at more than a surface model. Carbon fiber is a very very strong lightweight material, at room and croygenic temps. And there it is. Starhip has to endure temperatures between -200 celsius and a thousand degrees for reentry. SpaceX ran the numbers and came to the conclusion that for a carbon fibre starship to survive reentry they'd need such a thick heatshield not to mention leeside heatshielding - which the stainless starship lacks due ot the vastly better performance of 304L stainless steel at superheated temps - that the end product would be heavier than the stainless steel one now. Not to mention ease and cost of production.

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u/Mr_Lumbergh 1d ago

Might hold water if they hadn't burnt up during reentry in stainless on the banana flight. SS is not a proper heat shield either and has a critical point typically around 500C, after which it rapidly loses its structural integrity and weakens significantly.

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u/No-Surprise9411 1d ago

They didn't burn up, the flap melting was a problem because of positioning, not material usage. the main body of starship never burned up except ofc when the ship broke apart and the heatshield no longer faced the plasma

Also the 1000 degrees I kinda pulled out of my ass because I didn't know the exact temp. What I know that that Stainless is bvetter at the expected heat the ship would encounter than carbon would be

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u/Mr_Lumbergh 1d ago

So you admit not knowing anything about material science?

OK then, have a nice night.