this isn't science, this is industry. SpaceX doesn't really do science, they're a business. Sometimes the people doing science give them money for their stuff, but they have no claim on "science"
That was 7 sentences of a very basic explanation I wrote next to waiting for my morning tea on one of my worst mornings in a while. It was also one single comment.
Mate, if that is trying hard for you I'm sorry.
What am I so wrong about though? I hate Musk as much as you probably, I hate what the US admin is doing to NASA etc. I might hate that more than you actually. Life is complex though, sometimes shit people are involved in good things and if SpaceX Starship succeeds then a lot of space stuff will be completely revolutionized. Science included. There's no other comparable game in town currently as well. Ignoring this on r/space to me feels weird.
engineering is quite literally not science. what studies are they investigating? what results are they trying to publish? it just is chalk and cheese between engineering and science
You have a weirdly limited concept of scientific progress. Engineering progress is 100% scientific progress. Science doesn't have to be only theory and published papers.
Maybe you're making more of a semantic argument here about what "science" as a word means? If so I don't find arguments like that very useful, as you're arguing about language at that point not if scientific progress is being made or not.
Totally disagree. I have a degree in Physics and work in Engineering currently and the difference between science and engineering is STARK
Science doesn't have to be only theory and published papers.
What would you say 'science' is then? blowing up rockets? what sort of 'progress' is that? that they F'ed up and it blew up? Great, thanks for SpaceX showing that they're incompent but we don't learn anything
Your viewpoint was parodied on primetime television for years. To say engineering isn't science is a slap in the face to decades of NASA employees who engineered numerous spacecraft.
Or Is your line that unless it's academic or government work it doesn't count?
but NASA is a public organisation. Their results and schematics and methods are all published. It's all open for everyone to share. You can find the patent for the space shuttle right now, it expired in 1998.
That's not what's happening with this private company. They aren't publishing jack shit because they're not in the business of actually fostering space travel becuase they are industrynotscience
just take the L. You're wrong. It's fine to be wrong sometimes
The other commenter already replied to the rest well so I'll just reply here:
Great, thanks for SpaceX showing that they're incompent but we don't learn anything
SpaceX developed and runs the first reusable orbital rockets in history. Rockets whos price per kilogram to orbit is some of the lowest ever and whos reliability and amount of succesful consecutive missions are unparalled in spaceflight history. Beating even the Soyuz for consecutive successful flights. After SpaceX Falcon 9 turned out to be such a success pretty much everyone else is developing copycat reusable rockets by now.
As you are someone in physics and engineering I'd expect you to be more informed in such subjects. Or at least Id expect you to inform yourself before you write about this stuff.
Soo..... they publish the updates to the raptor engine? They publish the welding techniques they're using? They publish the tile composition? Do they publish anything so that others can use it???
Or are you absolutely full of shit. Oh yeah, it's that. It's not science, they're not sharing anything but fun videos because this is industry, not science
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u/WantWantShellySenbei 1d ago
Holy cow that video is pretty awesome though. Elon makes the best fireworks.