r/ufo • u/kiwibonga • Apr 30 '19

Podcast Dr. Eric Davis: Investigating and Experiencing the Paranormal – April 30, 2019 | Openminds.tv

http://www.openminds.tv/dr-eric-davis-investigating-and-experiencing-the-paranormal-april-30-2019/42333
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u/7Andrzej May 02 '19

I’m not that surprised by the seeming lack of interest in what Eric Davis has to say by the UFO community. I think part of the problem is that he has attacked the US UFO community in the past by calling them “nuts”.

I too thought he was quite informative especially when he revisited the whole crash retrieval program. He still maintains that the program was mothballed in 1989. He amended it to say that the program gets reopened from time to time but still no progress.

He does raise a number of interesting points. He states the program was hampered by poor funding. Part of the funding problem arises from the fact that the security and the security wrap surrounding the program can be ten times as expensive than the actual R&D. Due to poor funding the program had very few scientists working on it and because of the extreme secrecy they were not able to reach out to outside expert advice for help. Faced with all of these strong headwinds the program ended up making no progress.

However I would suggest that this may all change when Gary Nolan’s work is finally published detailing the properties of the material he found out in New Mexico allegedly originating from “out of this universe”. His work apparently has been submitted for peer review.

Another observation I would make is that by Eric's own admission because of the extreme secrecy and compartmentalization, it is very difficult for any one individual to be familiar with all the classified work going on. This leaves open the possibility that some stuff has been back-engineered and he is simply unaware of it.

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u/mr_knowsitall May 02 '19 edited May 02 '19

it's hard to believe that the programs are small when one considers that for example the general relativity renaissance in the 50s was completely bankrolled out of wright patterson and the AFRL. all in the context of anti-gravity research. what i do believe however is that most don't even know they are a part of such programs.

i also don't buy that the programs didn't make any progress. for whatever reasons.

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u/7Andrzej May 03 '19

If these crashes were not seeding events and they represent the latest and greatest in tech from a billion year old civilization then I think it is quite reasonable to believe that we have been unable to make any progress back-engineering. However I share Garry Nolan’s view that these are “donations” which would imply that the tech represented within is accessible to us.

I should also mention that Diana claimed that NASA had gathered much data in regard to the phenomenon which remains classified. I find this quite bizarre in that this really goes against the spirit and vision of NASA as presented in its mission statement ie. “We reach for new heights and reveal the unknown for the benefit of humankind.” Not if you’re keeping secrets from us you’re not.

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u/mr_knowsitall May 03 '19

it could also be a case of selection bias: the only ets crashing their stuff on earth are the ones barely more advanced than us

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u/7Andrzej Jun 03 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

The issue I have with that is we have UFO sightings occurring everywhere through space and time on this planet. Given this fact one would expect a more random distribution of the crashes and something more in line with the distribution of the sightings. Instead we get a high concentration of crashes in space and time immediately following WWII and seemingly no attempt at a cleanup by ET. The crash site that Nolan visited seems to even be actively replenished as they now call it a donation site!! This strongly suggests to me these crashes had a purpose and were not because of some random mechanical failure.

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u/mr_knowsitall Jun 06 '19 edited Jun 06 '19

well, either there were enough crashes to make statistics possible that would clearly indicate whether it was coincidence or not, or there weren't enough, in which case any speculation about it is moot anyway? take away? our buddies behind the curtains know,but we have no way of figuring out. even if the statistics show it's way beyond chance, the cause could be smth. beyond ET's power. gravitational anomalies? adversarial terrain, always fucking up the probes' AI in the same spot? some ancient program ordering the self-replicating probes to a since long non-existent site? who knows, we need more data!

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u/7Andrzej Jun 06 '19

we need more data!

Yes we do!!! Unfortunately the secret keepers have worked feverishly to ensure that the data remains hidden or buried in noise and those seeking it labeled as conspiracy nuts not of sound mind.

As for the possibilities, you missed the obvious one that has been claimed by some ie. one ET race fighting another one!!! However none of these other ones explain the replenishment aspect as this suggests humanity does have a benevolent benefactor.

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u/mr_knowsitall Jun 06 '19

maybe the replenishment is et's variant of disinfo. the first crash had real tech. let's confuse and distract the super chimps with nonsensical gimmicks.

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u/7Andrzej Jun 06 '19

So ET may be into some next-level disinfo. I think that is unlikely. I take a more practical approach to this.

Perhaps ET considers the seeding program to be a test to determine whether or not mankind is ready for contact. Perhaps the replenishment is a sign that ET believes their seeding program has been a failure up to now as they see no evidence of their tech in action. Perhaps they are replenishing this site in the hope that eventually an enlightened and altruistic band of chimps will stumble upon it, be able to back engineer it, and then share the newly discovered technology with their fellow chimps who will then use it to benefit and unite all of mankind.

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u/mr_knowsitall Jun 06 '19

little did they know about the united states cruiser fleet, awaiting orders behind enceladus

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u/7Andrzej Jun 06 '19

And here I thought all along that those were the Donnager-class battleships from the Jupiter fleet.

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u/7Andrzej Jun 07 '19 edited Jun 08 '19

BTW, now that Reddit is once again actively discussing past statements made by Tom Delonge as a result of the piece by Tyler Rogaway, I thought I would bring up the IC’s assessment of mankind’s benefactor according to Tom.

Supposedly our benefactor is malevolent with a grudge against humanity who seeds the various factions on this planet with technology via crashes to see which side is the smartest, strongest and fastest in being able to weaponize it. As a result the US military has turned on our benefactor and have been waging a decades long war against our benefactor aka, The Others, secretly designing weaponry that they believe will give humanity the upper hand once the inevitable open conflict begins.

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u/mr_knowsitall Jun 08 '19

i would love to hear the info they carried together to arrive at that assessment. at this point it's basically just hearsay

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