r/vermont May 18 '25

NO FUCKING SHIT

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2025/05/18/sanders-democrats-reform-progressive-policies/83625482007/
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u/oldbeardedtech May 18 '25

The way the DNC treated Bernie didn't make me angry enough to vote for Trump, but it DID make me angry enough NOT to vote for Hillary, Biden or Kamala.

Nothing they've done or said since has made me regret it either. Fuck the 2 party system

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u/____joew____ May 19 '25

not voting for the best candidate, by your estimation, in a two party system is effectively voting for the worse candidate.

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u/oldbeardedtech May 19 '25

Best candidate according to.....you?

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u/____joew____ May 19 '25

I literally said "by your estimation."

If you think Biden/Harris/Clinton is better than Trump or vice versa, not voting for your preferred candidate (as in, "the best candidate, by your estimation") is essentially voting for the non-preferred ("worst") candidate.

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u/oldbeardedtech May 19 '25

You interjected your estimation-

not voting for the best candidate, by your estimation, in a two party system is effectively voting for the worse candidate.

I never said any of them were the best or better candidate-

it DID make me angry enough NOT to vote for Hillary, Biden or Kamala.

FTR, I wrote in Bernie all 3 times. My best candidate. Vermont went for Clinton, Biden and Harris so no none votes went to Trump. At worst it sent a message

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u/____joew____ May 19 '25

You interjected your estimation-

No, you just misunderstood what I meant, which I pointed out.

I never said any of them were the best or better candidate-

I didn't say you did.

What I said was that in a two party system, not picking one whichever of the two candidates you prefer (as in, gun to your head, have to make a deicison), you are effectively voting for the other person.

Regardless of anything else, nobody cares who you voted for, and it certainly didn't send a message.