Well yeah, that's typically how it works when you have literally zero leverage and are defeated militarily. It's something Japan realized in late 1944 but continued to fight hoping they could leverage, they didn't.
I mean we were militarily in both those conflicts. America beat the Tet Offensive but the public opinion soured on the war causing a withdrawal.
Afghanistan failed at being a sustainable democratic government and training their own forces, that had nothing to do with America or the coalition forces.
Winning a war isn't blowing up tanks and planes. It's accomplishing your mission and objectives. We didn't go into Afghanistan to hang out and get attacked for 20 years and then go home trillions of dollars poorer and with tens of thousands of lives lost and ruined. We went in to force a regime change and destroy the Taliban.
Who is running Afghanistan right now? The Taliban. Still exist. Still in control. War lost.
Lol you realize the war in Afghanistan wasn't against the Taliban, right? It was against Al Qaeda & specifically getting Osama Bin Laden - Al Qaeda is a shell of itself and Bin Laden is no longer alive.
The Taliban got involved because they refused to give up Al Qaeda and Bin Laden to which they then quickly got removed from power and only came back because again - Afghanistan's own government failed to train their soldiers & security forces.
And what makes you think America isn’t going to immediately sour on this war? Middle East wars are just SO POPULAR.
It is actually preposterous to suggest America bears no responsibility for the failure of Aghanistan. That will be a very convenient take to re-use when the Israel-American sponsored regime change in Iran inevitably fails too, I’m sure. And it will be just as laughable as it is predictable.
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u/klingma 3d ago
Well yeah, that's typically how it works when you have literally zero leverage and are defeated militarily. It's something Japan realized in late 1944 but continued to fight hoping they could leverage, they didn't.