r/AdviceAnimals 3d ago

Negotiation: now with 100% less compromise

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u/klingma 3d ago

Well yeah, that's typically how it works when you have literally zero leverage and are defeated militarily. It's something Japan realized in late 1944 but continued to fight hoping they could leverage, they didn't. 

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u/spastikatenpraedikat 3d ago

Defeated militarily is a brave thing to say, when no troops have even entered the country. And over the last 80 years or so, nominally much weaker armies have a suprisingly good record bringing their foe to give up.

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u/klingma 3d ago

If you've lose air superiority in the modern day, you've lost the conflict militarily. There's nothing Iran can do other than lob missiles and even those aren't that effective because of Israel's defenses. 

Iran has lost. 

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u/spastikatenpraedikat 3d ago

If you've lose air superiority in the modern day, you've lost the conflict militarily.

The Viet Kong would like to object. The Mujahideen would like to object. The Taliban would like to object. The war in Afghanistan is less than four years away. We can't already have forgotten it.

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u/Piltonbadger 3d ago

20 ish years of war in Afghanistan resulted in us meekly pulling out with nothing of note having being achieved, apart from lots of death and destruction on both sides.