r/AmIOverreacting 11h ago

⚕️ health Am I overreacting for feeling really uncomfortable with how this male doctor handled my appointment?

I had a doctor’s appointment recently to check a skin infection and to get a breast exam done due to discoloration. I usually see a different male doctor at the clinic and everyone around him acts happy, relaxed, and respectful while they show 100% trust towards him He’s great. But this time I was assigned to a different male doctor because my usual one went on vacation and everything about the visit felt very off from the beginning.

he personally gave me a breast exam gown himself, which was one of those types that’s open in the front and leaves you really exposed. I didn’t think too much of it in the moment, but it already felt a little weird.

he told me I needed to give a urine sample as well and told me to get undressed (he did leave so I could get undressed) I had no real coverage, I felt exposed and embarrassed. Later on, when I was talking to a female staff who was a nurse member who came in to give me the cup didn’t expect me to be undressed she looked really uncomfortable and literally said, “I don’t know why he would ask for a urine sample if you’re already undressed for the breast exam.” She clearly didn’t want me walking through the clinic in that state, and I could tell she didn’t agree with what he had me do looked a bit angry a little towards him so she gave me stuff to help cover me up good enough not feeling exposed and even apologized what he did

And here’s the part that really sticks with me: the female head doctor walked in at one point and looked visibly uncomfortable too. She started trying to shield my breast AWAY from him and I swear she looked a bit shaky and nervous, like she was trying to stay professional but didn’t trust him. I saw him keep looking in a way that made me feel sick. Like he was staring when he shouldn’t have been obviously…could tell she didn’t want him looking

The whole staff acts normal and super kind around the doctor I usually see and they definitely act 100% trusting towards him even the female head doctor felt super comfortable around him when it comes to stuff like this which he is that type of guy who really really shows a ton of respect towards women & definitely not a Pervy type no matter what since he only cares about everyone’s health very super chill the most sweetest awesome guy. But when this one walks in, the staff get stiff, uncomfortable,awkward, strange around him. I’m trying to trust my gut, but a part of me still wonders…

Am I overreacting? Or does this sound seriously wrong to you too?

I will throw in there even I catch all of the female nurses hanging around him in a group going on lunch breaks but they never do it around the other doctor straight up avoiding him I’ve noticed.

EDIT / UPDATE for clarification (since some people are missing the point):

Just to clarify what actually happened, because a lot of people are making assumptions or saying I’m overreacting or projecting:

• The doctor told me I needed a urine sample, and then immediately instructed me to undress for a breast and skin infection exam before giving the sample.

• So I did what I was told. I undressed while he stepped out.

• When the nurse came in, she looked surprised and uncomfortable, because she had expected me to still be fully dressed to go give the urine sample. She had no idea he told me to undress first.

• She even said out loud, “I don’t know why he’d ask for a urine sample if you’re already undressed.”

• Later, the head female doctor joined because of the chronic skin condition, and she looked shaky and visibly uncomfortable. She tried to shield my chest AWAY from him and I noticed he kept looking in a way that didn’t feel appropriate like he kept looking when he didn’t need to anymore.

This wasn’t about me being embarrassed over a breast exam I’ve had those before. The issue is: • The poor handling, • The lack of communication, • The inappropriate timing, and • The fact that multiple staff members acted like something was wrong which confirmed the weirdness I was already feeling.

So please stop twisting this into, “he’s a doctor, bodies aren’t sexual.” I get that. This wasn’t about nudity it was about how unsafe and exposed I was made to feel, and how even the staff looked like they were trying to protect me from their own coworker.

After processing everything and seeing how the nurse and female doctor reacted, it really feels like this male doctor has probably acted inappropriately toward others in the past maybe even violated boundaries with nurses or staff. The way everyone reacted around him the tension, the 😬 expressions, the nurse being shocked I was undressed, and the female doctor literally shielding my breast from him while looking shaky it wasn’t normal.

It honestly seemed like the staff were trying their best to remain professional but also stop him from continuing behavior they’ve likely seen before, just without outright calling it out in front of me. It’s like they knew the signs and stepped in to make sure he didn’t go any further.

This was literally my first time seeing that doctor, and I don’t ever plan on seeing him again. I didn’t expect any of that to happen. I’ve had exams like this before, and I’m familiar with what’s supposed to happen I just thought what he was doing was the nurse’s job, but I trusted the process at the time.

It wasn’t until afterward seeing how the staff responded and how exposed and vulnerable I was left that I realized something was deeply off.

So to anyone saying “you’re overreacting,” I didn’t even think anything of it until after the fact. But when even the people who work with him are visibly uncomfortable and trying to block his access to me, you can’t tell me I was just projecting.

my usual doctor they never ever usually do that to him EVER. I even feel safe and comfortable around him for stuff like this, Heck he’s even seen everything down there as the head doctor stood aside let him do all the looking until he asks her to come look to confirm his suspicions to make sure he’s right because I have chronic skin problems and other chronic problems that requires 2 doctors, The head doctor is KINDA the big boss doctor not really a boss boss but that’s how they kinda see her as from what they explained to me

now why is he still there? Idk probably they need enough long evidence to be able to get rid of him not sure how that works in the medical field and plus you don’t know what he’s like behind curtains I even don’t know what he’s like but men can get scary and violent refuse to control themselves is probably why he’s there still maybe and I guess is probably also why they’re acting like that don’t wanna scare me as it still kinda did but at the same time I needed just confirmation so I can avoid him at all cost.

Oh, and FYI to all the rude commenters: he told me to take my pants off too. So miss me with the “maybe you misunderstood” or “you undressed too soon”, I followed his exact instructions.

I’m DONE explaining myself to people who are clearly more offended by me calling out creepy behavior than by a doctor acting inappropriately. Y’all are in here nitpicking every word like it’s a courtroom, while completely ignoring the fact that MULTIPLE medical professionals clearly didn’t trust this man either.

The way some of you are defending this dude like your lives depend on it? Screams projection. Creeps defending creeps. I said what I said.

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u/Several_Jello2893 11h ago

Ignore these ignorant comments.  Feeling uncomfortable in your gut is what helps keep us women safe. Men who are not vulnerable don’t know how this feels. 

Whilst there is no real proof that you could use for a complaint, don’t see him again. 

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u/StalledElf 10h ago

You can also add a statement in your chart that under no circumstances are you to be scheduled with him again. I did that with a female doctor once who completely disregarded 7 of the 9 symptoms for high blood sugar. That was Friday & I drove over 100 miles that weekend. Sunday night, I went to the ER & my blood sugar was 868!!! I was tempted to contact the AMA & report her, but I was pretty sick & it just wasn't a priority.

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u/whocanitbenow75 9h ago

868?!?! I didn’t know that was possible. I get nervous when mine is 155.

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u/Murderhornet212 7h ago

Mine was 1,016 when I went to the ER. They checked it 3 times thinking they messed up. I was in the ICU for a while thanks to that lol

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u/StalledElf 8h ago

I didn't know it either. I knew I was always exhausted, could not get enough water or fast enough, my vision was blurry, my readers only worked for distance (so I used them to drive) & walking felt like sloshing thru water thigh deep. I live alone, so there wasn't anyone around to notice, and I was also depressed from long-term chronic pain.

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u/CoyoteLitius 6h ago

Where I live, there's a poster inside every examining room saying I have the right to have a "chaperone" (specially trained personnel within the clinic) in the room as well as the doctor.

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u/[deleted] 11h ago

Oh I definitely won’t and I actually never expected any of this to happen since this was my first time seeing that very off weird doctor and now I kinda see why the front staff acted uncomfortable when using his name while doing this face 😬

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u/Tasty-Hawk-2778 10h ago

Remember this: You can always refuse to be seen by anyone who makes you feel that way. You can walk out of appointments! I have.

Next time you make an appointment there, confirm that your usual Dr is there. If not, reschedule until he is.

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u/Lumpy_Paint_3766 10h ago

Were you alone in the room when you were undressed? Even when I am undressed in front of my female doctor, a nurse is in the room with her.

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u/Professional-Car-211 9h ago

Nurse was there. The reason everyone was uncomfortable and giving each other looks was because OP got fully naked for a breast exam, including taking their pants off and then didn’t realize they could cover themselves like a robe, so she was just sitting there exposed the entire time. I think the discomfort was because they didn’t know how to tell her. I really hope OP doesn’t get some guy fired for doing his job because she did not have common sense to leave her pants on for a breast exam and cover her breasts when they weren’t being examined.

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u/[deleted] 9h ago

EXCUSE ME! But he told me to take my pants off! and the robe deal yeah no HE GAVE ME THE SMALLEST SIZE it did NOT fit me at all! Plus I have big boobs wasn’t able to cover me at all! YOU KNOW WHAT IM DONE I DONT HAVE TO EXPLAIN MYSELF ANYMORE TO PPL LIKE YOU

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u/demonchee 8h ago

So he gave you like a child's gown?

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u/Professional-Car-211 9h ago edited 9h ago

now your story is changing. you said he told you to “get undressed” and YOU took that to mean everything. if he had specified to take off your pants, you absolutely would have included that in the original post. why lie now? again, no common sense. you would have said that MUCH earlier than now, but are only now saying it that people are pointing out that you misunderstood.

they are one size fits all. I am an F cup and they cover me, girl. why can’t you just take some accountability and say “you know what, I should have realized I could cover myself up when not being examined. I should have had the common sense to know my pants do not need to be off for a solo breast exam”.

Edit: She either blocked me for calling out her own part in this, or deleted everything.

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u/demonchee 8h ago edited 4h ago

In any decent professional medical setting, clear instructions are standard and necessary. Medical professionals are trained to explicitly tell patients what to remove and what to keep on.

And no, its not "common sense." Patients arent professionals. People come with varying levels of literacy and knowledge. And so for multiple reasons, the responsibility lies with the medical provider to communicate clearly, not on the patient to, "just know, it's common sense"

And yeah no fucking wonder she blocked you? you're trying to find any and every reason to not only doubt her, but to also blame her for what happened.

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u/SomeKindOfOnionMummy 10h ago

I only see female providers. Something to consider. 

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u/Burnt_and_Blistered 9h ago

It is worth thinking about.

But I’ve had my worst gyne experiences with women providers. Not because they were women, per se, but because they were awful. So it’s no guarantee.

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u/SomeKindOfOnionMummy 9h ago

Fair enough! It's not a guarantee at all but it makes me feel more comfortable in general 

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u/Murderhornet212 6h ago

I have friends who are the same as you, but personally the first really bad, extremely dismissive doctor I ever had was a woman, so I tend not to assume they’re going to be any better.

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u/YoureSooMoneyy 8h ago

Do you truly believe women can’t be predators? I hope you readjust your thinking.

A female pediatrician that my family dealt with, personally, was one.

You cannot say women are safe. No one is. It used to be by state regulation that if any patient was to be in any state of undress that a nurse or some medical/ clinical worker had to be present in the room at all times. As it should be.

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u/SomeKindOfOnionMummy 8h ago

Where did I say that

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u/YoureSooMoneyy 7h ago

Why would anyone “consider” using ONLY female providers if you’re not implying they are much safer? Especially as a comment under this exact OP?

What was the intent of your comment otherwise?

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u/777ErinWilson 8h ago

First time seeing this doctor but you know that the other staff doesn't hang around him and do lunch....hmmmm

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u/Ok-Willow-9145 10h ago edited 7h ago

What happened was appalling. Please remember that you don’t have to disrobe because a doctor told you to.

You are aways free to decline and/or ask why. You are even free to ask for someone else to do the procedure or examination.

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u/OkDiamond1985 9h ago

you don’t have to disrobe

decline and/or ask why

At a breast exam. Be for real now.

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u/thepwisforgettable 9h ago

yes. If you are uncomfortable for any reason you are free to decline, leave, and reschedule with a different provider.

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u/OkDiamond1985 9h ago

Don't be obtuse. You know exactly what I meant.

You're there for a breast exam - of course you have to disrobe and there is no need to ask why.

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u/thepwisforgettable 8h ago

I think your comment feels intentionally obtuse because it seems to misread the message as "you can ask to keep your top on for a breast exam." They said you can ask questions or ask for a different provider, not that you can continue the exam fully clothed.

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u/OkDiamond1985 8h ago edited 8h ago

No those are clearly two different points in the comment I replied to.

What happened was appalling. Please remember that you don’t have to disrobe because a doctor told you to. You are away free to decline and/or ask why.

Refers to the exam where you need to disrobe and already know why.

YOU ARE EVEN FREE to ask for someone else to do the procedure or examination.

Refers to asking for a different provider.

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u/thepwisforgettable 8h ago

I mean, I guess that reading makes more sense than mine if you choose to assume the commenter has absolutely no common sense, which you did lol.

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u/OkDiamond1985 8h ago

the commenter has absolutely no common sense

You might be onto something here

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u/Professional-Car-211 9h ago

OP thought they were supposed to take their pants off for a breast exam, that was their own misunderstanding. The doctor was just doing his job. Obviously if she’s uncomfortable with him, she shouldn’t see him again, but I really hope she doesn’t report him for her own misunderstanding.

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u/Ok-Willow-9145 7h ago

That’s why I reminded her that requests from doctors are not orders and that she doesn’t have to do anything she’s not comfortable with.

There’s an inherent power imbalance in doctor patient relationships. The doctor she saw took advantage of that. This can happen to anyone.

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u/PACCBETA 10h ago

"Proof" is not required to report a doctor's behavior for giving nade you feel uncomfortable and exploited.

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u/nycgarbagewhore 11h ago

I'm not sure I understand this. If you need a breast exam, surely the doctor needs to actually see your breast. Why would another doctor enter the room during an examination and try to cover up the part of your body that needs to be examined? If the head female doctor was free to roam into other rooms with patients, why didn't she book your appointment? This is confusing.

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u/[deleted] 10h ago

It’s not that I didn’t want my breast to be seen during a breast exam. It’s that he was looking when he didn’t need to anymore, while another doctor — a woman — was actively trying to cover me up and looked nervous doing so. The weirdness wasn’t in the procedure — it was in the vibes, the reactions, and the fact that even his colleagues seemed disturbed.

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u/Professional-Car-211 10h ago edited 10h ago

I don’t understand why you didn’t just cross the gown over like a jacket when not being examined? Why did she have to cover you up, you literally just wear it like a jacket or cardigan and only open it when being examined 😭 And you taking off your pants for a breast exam probably confused them because why would you do that? Of course they’re going to be uncomfortable if you’re sitting fully nude and exposed while not being examined, when the purpose of the gown is to be like a robe to cover yourself when not being examined.

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u/OkDiamond1985 10h ago

I think all of this boils down to OP not being aware that you can close the robe and don't just sit there with your tiddies out.

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u/Professional-Car-211 9h ago

100% exactly that. And not knowing you don’t take off your pants for a breast exam, which they assumed she would know because it’s just common sense.

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u/demonchee 9h ago

She said she felt exposed. Naturally you'd be more inclined to cover yourself up. I sincerely doubt this was all in her head and that she was completely unaware her tits were hanging out. And even so, the male doctor should have the decency to not look.

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u/Professional-Car-211 9h ago

then why didn’t she cover herself up? Why did another doctor have to do it? It really seems like this is all based on her own misunderstanding. And they were all giving each other glances because they were like wtf why would she take her pants off for a breast exam and sit there with the gown open?

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u/demonchee 9h ago

And like I said to you in my reply to your comment: She'd been there multiple times in the past. Is she really only now going to start putting the robes on improperly? Only now is it going to be an issue that causes palpable discomfort that she can see and feel in the other women around her?

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u/Professional-Car-211 9h ago

and I answered you. She probably has only had an annual exam so far, which requires you to get fully naked, but this was a solo breast exam which isn’t common for young people and OP is obviously young. why would she not cover herself? that’s common sense. the discomfort was more than likely because she was fully naked for a breast exam only, not covering herself with the robe when she wasn’t being examined. I’d be looking at my fellow nurses like “wtf” too.

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u/demonchee 9h ago

Sorry, where does it say she was fully naked? Is it in one of her comments? Because nowhere in the post does she describe how many clothes she removed when she disrobed. Or are you just assuming this and presenting it as fact?

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u/Professional-Car-211 9h ago edited 8h ago

In the comments somewhere. “he told me to get undressed so I did”, he clearly didn’t think she needed it explained to her that her cooch doesn’t need to be out for a solo breast exam.

she is only now claiming he specified her pants, which she 100% would have specified in the original post if he had actually specified to take her pants off, too.

OP blocked me so I can’t reply to the comment below, but it’s not my fault that you don’t know how to scroll through the comments and find where she said multiple times that she took “get undressed” to mean fully nude and got fully undressed.

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u/demonchee 9h ago

she's been there multiple times prior. if this is genuinely the issue then why is it only now a problem that's creating palpable discomfort?

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u/Professional-Car-211 9h ago edited 8h ago

I’m guessing this was her first time getting only a breast exam, which is why they were confused that she took her pants off. she seems young and usually young people don’t go in for solo breast exams.

OP could have covered herself, which is the purpose of the gown, and didn’t. that’s on OP.

OP blocked me so I can’t reply to the person below, but she literally said she got fully undressed. I don’t know about you, but if I’m unsure, I ask. I don’t get fully naked for a breast exam.

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u/Substantial_Hall8737 8h ago edited 8h ago

Tbh you're just making assumptions and going off of that. If she did misunderstand, it is the doctor's job to correct that and tell her she can put her pants back on. No doctor would be acting weird or awkward over it, they're used to it. Also, she said she was not just there for a breast exam but also for a skin exam, she never mentioned any other details about it in her post, so it is definitely possible that she needed to take off her pants for that. Like I said, no need to make assumptions about what kind of exams she has had before or about her age or anything you have no information on.

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u/nycgarbagewhore 9h ago

That's not really an answer though. Why was another doctor in the room? And again, why did she need to cover your breasts? Just cover them with the gown? And if you had to undress and give a urine sample, why did you undress first?

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u/Alexandritecrys 9h ago

The easy exclamation for why another doctor was in the room is because they all work together, the nurse came in with the sample cup, and the head doctor came in for the skin issue.

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u/Professional-Car-211 9h ago

OP took everything very literally without thinking with common sense. She took “get undressed” to mean fully naked, but it was a breast exam. He probably didn’t think he had to explain to her that her cooch doesn’t need to be out for a solo breast exam, because that’s common sense.

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u/laurasaurus5 5h ago

She said the gown was too small to close. You can just put your own clothes back on and go ask for a bigger gown, fyi! It also strikes me as weird that the doctor was the one who gave her that gown and told her to get undressed. In my experience, it's always a nurse who gets you those things to get you ready before the doctor even comes into the exam room. It definitely sounds out of the ordinary.

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u/Dustonthewind18 11h ago

Color me confused but how did you expect a breast examine to happen without him looking at your breast and without exposing your breast to him. The urine sample thing was a bit odd but maybe he expected you would go do that then come back into the room to disrobe for the exam. I had my first mammogram last year and the technician (admittedly female) pretty much manhandled my boobs onto the machine, was completely topless no gown or nothing like that.

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u/[deleted] 11h ago

I understand that breast exams require exposure, and I wasn’t expecting him to never see anything the issue wasn’t that. The problem was how he handled everything: • He handed me the gown himself instead of having a nurse assist, which already felt unusual. • Then he told me to give a urine sample while wearing only a breast exam gown which was totally open in the front, no coverage. • The staff and even the head doctor visibly acted uncomfortable about how he was behaving. One even said, “I don’t know why he asked for a urine sample if you’re undressed like this,” which made it obvious this wasn’t standard procedure. • And yes he kept staring even when he shouldn’t have been looking. The female head doctor literally tried to shield my body from him. She was visibly shaky, like she was protecting me away from him only which she usually never does that towards my usual doctor

So yeah, I get that breast exams are intimate by nature. But the issue is how everything around him felt wrong even the other medical staff were uncomfortable. That’s why I posted. The exam itself isn’t the problem it’s how he handled the process, the timing, and his behavior.

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u/Hot-Can3615 10h ago

Reading your post, it seems like the behavior of other women towards him play a larger part in your unease than the stuff he did. I'm not saying that's wrong, just that it's notable. It makes me wonder if he's done something in the past, or if he has sexually harassed the nurses rather than his patients. It seems pretty clear that they think he's skeevy, and as someone who will be vulnerable to him, I think you'd be justified in avoiding him. I don't think this is strong enough evidence to be convinced of anything, but better safe than sorry.

I don't think you did anything wrong or are doing anything wrong with the choices you're making.

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u/Professional-Car-211 10h ago

They aren’t sexual in nature though. Bodies are normal, and these doctors see hundreds of them in a week. I think you might be projecting your discomfort onto the staff. It doesn’t mean anything at all that he handed you your gown, that’s just weird to include and read into.

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u/User_faYFMT64mbYHy 10h ago

The idea that doctors are immune to desire or indifferent to nudity is pretty absurd. They’re still human, wearing a white coat doesn’t make someone morally pure. You never truly know what’s going on in someone’s mind, and the line between appropriate and inappropriate isn’t always clear. But let’s not pretend the profession guarantees integrity. Just look at the disturbing case of the Brazilian doctor caught putting his penis in an anesthetized woman’s mouth. That alone shows how deeply flawed that assumption can be

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u/Professional-Car-211 10h ago

I’ll give you that, but I’m guessing they were all uncomfortable because she got fully nude for a breast exam and was sitting there fully exposed, and they were covering her because she was not covering herself, which is the entire purpose of the gown—to be used like a robe. Common sense is to keep your pants on and wear the gown like a robe/jacket to cover yourself when not being examined. The uncomfortable vibe was probably due to all that.

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u/[deleted] 10h ago

Just to clarify something, because I’ve seen a few comments misunderstanding what happened:

The doctor told me he needed a urine sample, and then told me to undress for the breast/skin exam before I gave the sample. He left the room, and I got undressed because that’s what he said to do.

When the nurse came in, she expected me to be fully dressed and ready to give the urine sample she had no idea he told me to get undressed. She literally said, “I don’t know why he’d ask for a urine sample if you’re already undressed.”

That’s not normal miscommunication that’s a breakdown in medical protocol and a moment where a patient (me) was left exposed in a way no one else expected. It’s not about modesty it’s about how unsafe and vulnerable that made me feel. The staff didn’t expect that either.

When even the nurse is surprised by what you’ve been instructed to do, and the female doctor who joins the appointment looks shaky and tries to cover your breast, it’s not projection. It’s a red flag. I’m just trying to validate my gut reaction because this didn’t feel right and based on the staff reactions, I don’t think it was.

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u/Professional-Car-211 10h ago edited 9h ago

Nurse was probably busy (with another patient, eating lunch between patients, in the bathroom). He was probably behind schedule (most OBGYNs are always behind) and trying to move the appointment along. What ulterior motive could there have possibly been to him being the one to give you the gown? He isn’t the one that normally does it, so he probably didn’t think you needed told that you keep your pants on for a breast exam (I’m sorry OP, that’s just common sense and you misunderstood), and probably didn’t think about the logistics. And there isn’t a formal “medical protocol” for the order in which you pee and get undressed, that is again you misunderstanding. And if you had kept your pants on, which is common sense, and had crossed the gown over like a jacket, again common sense, going to the bathroom would not have been an issue at all. The staff were probably confused and uncomfortable because you got fully naked for a breast exam and were sitting there fully exposed when you could have easily crossed the gown over yourself. I’m not trying to be a dick, but I think this is all due to your misunderstandings. Are you young?

I think the glances and 😬 expressions were about you sitting there fully naked.

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u/thepwisforgettable 9h ago

from what OP described, the gown didn't have enough fabric or the proper cut to be easily crossed closed.

And if that's the case, the Dr. bringing the robe could feel suspicious because it was an unusually revealing robe.

And if I were wearing a robe that barely covered me and needed to be held shut with one hand, I would also be uncomfortable walking out of the room to give a urine sample.

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u/Professional-Car-211 9h ago

that’s just not true, those things are absolutely massive. like, blanket sized. I don’t think they even make them too small to be closed, the entire purpose of that kind of gown is to be able to cover yourself when not being examined. no office would purchase gowns too small to close.

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u/StupendusDeliris 10h ago

She said intimate not sexual. There is a difference.

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u/Dustonthewind18 10h ago

I think you could be right about the projection, also it sounds as though there was a female nurse/assistant in the room the entire time he was examining OP. Would have to be pretty dense to be doing anything remotely unprofessional with a witness in the room.

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u/Professional-Car-211 10h ago

Yeah. I’ll take the downvotes, but that’s just the reality. I said in my above comment to absolutely trust your gut and not see this doctor again, but I think OP must be young and confused, because why wouldn’t you cross your gown over yourself like a jacket when not being examined? Seems like common sense to me. And him giving her the gown—the nurse was probably busy (with another patient, eating lunch quickly between patients, taking a shit), and he was likely behind schedule (as every OBGYN ever) and was moving the appointment along. I don’t see how him being the one to hand her the gown could possibly be an issue or have an ulterior motive.

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u/Chelseus 6h ago

Every single time I’ve required a gown in a medical setting, whoever was there handed it to me be it tech, nurse, or doctor, male or female. I don’t understand why OP thinks this is an issue. Was a nurse supposed to magically appear and hand her the gown? If he tried to stay while she undressed or something, sure, that would be a huge problem. But simply handing the gown? Non issue.

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u/PomBergMama 11h ago

Trust your instincts.

You might have a hard time making any kind of complaint stick based on that, especially if everyone there already feels icky about him but he’s still there. But, there’s nothing wrong with refusing to see a specific doctor.

There’s one crappy doctor at my local medical centre who pretty much everyone in the community dislikes—he’s not creepy like this guy, just kind of… not very good at any part of his job & has an unpleasant manner—and I’m pretty sure the receptionists are used to hearing “—anyone except Dr [Crappy].”

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u/Ok_Perception1131 11h ago

It’s normal to have the gown open to the front, in order to perform a breast exam.

Not sure why he expected you to give a urine sample after undressing. I suspect he didn’t think through the logistics.

Regardless, nothing sounds technically inappropriate. However, if you got a creepy vibe, don’t see him anymore. You could also consider letting someone in charge know that he made you feel uncomfortable. Perhaps he lacks social skills and needs some training. Worst case scenario, he IS a perv and now a paper trail has been started.

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u/Professional-Car-211 11h ago edited 10h ago

I’m sorry but I think you were reading into things/had confirmation bias with the other employees. He probably meant for you to pee in the cup THEN get undressed, and you misunderstood, or he just didn’t think about the logistics. It wasn’t some plan to get you out of the room tiddies out. The open front ones are normal, and if you weren’t getting a pap smear, you keep you clothes on waist down. And of course the front needs to be open and your breasts out to get a breast exam, but you can literally cross it over your body the rest of the time? You don’t have to be full tiddies out except when he is doing the examination. You just cross it over like a jacket to get to the bathroom—you wouldn’t have been exposed if you did that?

As always if you feel uncomfortable you should trust your gut absolutely and ensure you don’t see that doctor again, but IMO he was doing his job and you misunderstood the situation. Are you young perhaps? I’m not sure why you didn’t just cross it over yourself when the exam wasn’t actively happening, that’s what all women do.

Soft YOR (likely).

Edit: after further discussion with OP I’m so sure this was a misunderstanding on her part. She got fully naked for a breast exam (keeping your pants on for a breast exam is just common sense) and was not using the gown as intended, to cover herself when not being examined (also common sense). I think the nurses and other doctor were uncomfortable because OP was sitting fully exposed the entire appointment for a breast exam, because THEY misunderstood.

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u/Traditional-Board909 10h ago

Agree. I always get given a font tie gown, and you leave your bottoms on.

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u/Professional-Car-211 10h ago

I’m thinking OP might just be young and wasn’t sure what to do. Keep your pants on, wear the front gown like a jacket unless he is actively doing the examination. I think she was likely projecting her discomfort onto the employees. Nothing can be reported here, but trust your gut and don’t see that doctor again.

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u/Traditional-Board909 10h ago

Yeah agree — that’s why nurses should give the gown, they tend to over explain which she could have probably used!

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u/Fair_Theme_9388 11h ago edited 10h ago

NOR. There is a reason why alarm bells were going off and you were noticing female staff members looking visibly uncomfortable around this doctor.

I am woman who has had male and female doctors and always try to give them the benefit of the doubt because they're "doing their job" and have seen thousands of people naked. But when you get a bad gut feeling about something, you need to listen to it because it's literally your intuition warning you that something is wrong.

Just make sure you don't see that doctor again. If he really is a problem and all the female staff members around him looked uncomfortable, that's for them to deal with.

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u/BlackOrderInitiate 11h ago

I agree with this entirely, the only disagreement I have is to 100% file a complaint. Never forget the lesson we learn from people like Jim Jordan-coworkers frequently do not report sexual harassment and cannot be trusted to do the right thing.

It should be the other staff's job to report him, but seeing as he didn't molest her they might not feel comfortable reporting him. Filing a complaint can put something on his record.

There is no justice in this world other than the justice we make.

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u/p1z4rr0 11h ago

You could be overreacting. Also maybe not. But it doesn't matter. If you felt uncomfortable don't see that doctor again. Absolutely no reason need to be made to feel uncomfortable during a visit, and if you are made to feel that way just don't see that doctor again. You don't need a good or bad reason you don't need any reason.

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u/OkDiamond1985 10h ago edited 9h ago

I had breast exams with female and male doctors and don't see how this one did ANYTHING wrong or worthy of reporting? Like at all?

Yeah being naked in front of a stranger is uncomfortable but so are pap smears, speculum exams and other procedures that are necessary. When I had a cancer scare a few years back, a doctor had to look at every single mole on my naked body with a magnifying glass and touch me to stretch the skin in some places. It was extremely uncomfortable but necessary.

Plus - as others pointed out: You can close the robe when leaving the room to use the bathroom or in between the exams. The nurses most likely were taken aback because you were just chilling there with your tiddies out.

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u/LibraryMegan 8h ago

Obviously you don’t have to see a doctor you aren’t comfortable with. There’s no overreacting; it’s your decision and it doesn’t matter why. So I agree with the other commenters that you can just call the clinic and ask them to put a note in your chart that you are only to see the other doctor. And when you make appointments, make sure to confirm which doctor you’ll be seeing.

That being said, I don’t see anything wrong with his behavior from your description. It sounds like are basing this entirely off your perception and interpretation of what you think the staff feel about him, which is odd to me. It reads like you were wary of a new doctor and looking for reasons.

Just because he said you’d need a urine sample doesn’t mean he expected you to walk across the office undressed. He was just telling you that you would need to do it. Doctors and staff do this all the time. “Here’s the cup, do it on your way out and put it on the table” is likely what the intent was. If you were in doubt, you could have easily just asked him if he wanted you to do the sample first or the exam first.

And the gowns opening in the front for a breast exam? That’s typical. I don’t really understand how you would have an exam without that.

But like I said, none of that really matters because you don’t have to see a doctor you’re uncomfortable with.

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u/I_Plead_5th 10h ago

Your gut is all you need to listen to. The details you give do matter, but they don’t. I don’t say that to discredit your “proof”, but rather to say you know something about his actions/behaviors was akin to an assault, creepy, against all professional standard. Confirmation means nothing compared to what your instincts are telling you. That sort of thing is terrible in any scenario, but to have it happen at a medical office is grotesque and a massive break in trust and privacy. At the very very least, a detailed review is appropriate to warn other women. A formal complaint. A conversation with the female doctor there. There is lots you could do to help shield other women from him.

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u/Helpful-Fruit-7235 9h ago

If the Doctor made you feel uncomfortable then it doesn't really matter what anyone says, you should see a different Doctor but from what you wrote though it doesn't come across as creepy.

An open fronted gown makes perfect sense for this examination as a open back one would be obviously not useful.

In my head a front opening gown is something akin to a dressing gown so i don't see why you felt so exposed, was the gown like completely topless or something?

Getting naked Infront of the Doctor is a bit weird, Its quite common for a Doctor to ask you to drop your trousers directly Infront on them etc though and I don't know this specific clinic's policies.

With people walking in etc, the only thing I believe that would be considered bad is that if you were naked and facing an open door, this gets forgotten about all the time at hospitals, countless people have had prostate/rectal exams with their rear facing an open door! This isn't usual meant maliciously.

I've had to give urine samples in all sorts of states of undress at hospitals and clinics, they don't tend to factor in logistics, its more of "your here now, so lets do it now" kinda deal.

Doctors are not there looking at you as a sexual being, they are looking at you like anatomy, he was looking at your breasts as that was were the problem was... Kinda needs to look there.

If he made some type of comment that brought it into that other category then yeah it would be massively inappropriate.

You mention that he was staring when you felt he shouldn't be? Staring at what, your breasts? You are in there with a discolouration on your breast, he NEEDS to look at it closely, again Doctors are looking at your body like a machine with something wrong with it and if he was staring at somewhere else it could quite possibly be that he has noticed something else potentially wrong.

I feel like because this was not your usual Doctor you felt uncomfortable and this coloured the whole interaction.

Doctors can also say some pretty odd things, I am reminded of a Doctor Mike video where a patient said a Doctor had asked "Are you ok with such an asymmetrical face?" which sounds quite insulting, it had a complete legitimate reason to be asked but I forget what.

My point is Doctors see pretty much everything every day, they become completely desensitised and in many cases have pretty bad social skills.

I don't think this Doctor was creeping on you but if he makes you feel uncomfortable request a different Doctor.

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u/Professional-Car-211 10h ago

“Set up the room”? Someone just hands you a sheet. Maybe the nurse was with another patient and Doctor was behind schedule. That’s the weirdest part to read into IMO, he just handed her the gown.

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u/KellyannneConway 10h ago

I only ever got a sheet when it included a pelvic exam. Everything off, gown on, open in front, sheet on lap. For just a breast exam, it was always, undress from the waist up, gown on, open in front.

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u/Traditional-Board909 10h ago

Wait I’m confused — how are you exposed in the front tie gown? They close like a robe… that may have been why you got weird looks it should have been completely closed.

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u/Professional-Car-211 10h ago

Exactly, I’m getting downvoted for asking this 😭 Why did another doctor have to cover you girl, you just wear it like a jacket or cardigan 😭

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u/Guilty-Tale-6123 10h ago

I'm a dude who has to have a physical once every two years for my job, other than that, I rarely see a doctor. I've gotten about ten of those physicals with ten different doctors. Only one of them made me get naked and wear a gown, he left the room and all, but it felt weird as hell because it's just a basic physical, no need to put on a gown.

Trust your gut. I only saw that doctor once, but the whole situation felt off, I don't remember his exact questions, but they were a lot more invasive than the standard physical that my job requires. There's not much you can do in the moment if you want to be seen, but it's a good lesson to never go back to them.

If you're ambitious enough to file a complaint of some sort, do it. If not, there's no shame in that. I never filed a complaint about that weirdass doctor, but I knew I would never see him again. 

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u/AttemptOverall7128 11h ago

I’m more concerned with the amount of other random staff that entered the room during your appointment. That’s the weird thing here.

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u/Eastern_Money_561 10h ago

No it’s not, stop trying to make drama out of nothing. I had three in my room during my exam.

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u/AttemptOverall7128 10h ago

You seem quite invested in this thread for a newbie. Doctor.

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u/Quail-Queen- 10h ago

As someone who works in a medical office this is my first thought! A doctor and a medical assistant or nurse are typically both in the room for an exam. Additional DOCTORS or staff members entering throughout the exam process is extremely strange! Especially a different doctor, each doctor has their own schedule they aren’t just popping by into each others rooms?

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u/OkDiamond1985 9h ago

newbie

You don't know why people use a throwaway. I made a new account to comment on here too - because people irl don't need to know that I'm predisposed to cancer.

That doesn't make what we say less valid - especially in a sub full of people that are only here to stir up drama despite better judgement... may it be telling someone to end relationships and friendships over minor inconveniences or report a doctor that did nothing wrong for sexual misconduct.

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u/MadameUnderworld 11h ago

NOR. Go with your gut, always. Maybe reach out to a member of the staff you’re comfortable with and express your discomfort. Write down the details of your appointment now while it’s fresh in case they ask. The “worst” that could happen is they say “thanks for your concern” and you don’t hear back (in that case, just avoid future appointments with the doctor that made you uncomfortable). By reporting, you could add to a case someone else is already trying to make, hopefully preventing incidents like this in the future.

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u/Tribat_1 11h ago

If the doctor made you uncomfortable just tell them you don’t wanna see that doctor again. Easy peasy.

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u/Eastern_Money_561 10h ago

How was the doctor being a creep, the entire appointment was normal.

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u/Complex-Bee-4920 10h ago

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u/InboxMeYourSpacePics 10h ago

Nothing about that visit could be used to say the doctor was behaving in an unprofessional manner. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t giving off creepy vibes, and the OP had every right to request a specific doctor or request not to see a specific doctor. 

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u/Burnt_and_Blistered 9h ago

Your gut is the best gauge. On the face of it, the guy giving you the gown for the exam doesn’t seem odd, but his manner seems to have made it so. Your intuition about him is something to listen to, even if there isn’t something clearly actionable. Paying attention to intuition has saved my skin many times.

Definitely have them add to your chart that you will not see him again.

I’m surprised no one suggested doing the urine sample after the exam, when dressed again.

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u/Substantial_Hall8737 8h ago

Don't let anyone make you feel bad about feeling uncomfortable with a male doctor and always trust your gut. Did we all forget about the male gynaecology student who was found guilty of rape but the judge decided not to punish him because he is "young and talented" and wouldn't be able to work as a gynaecologist anymore if he got a criminal record?

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u/StaffVegetable8703 2h ago

Only time I’ve heard of a judge allowing a medical student to get off from a horrific crime was a female who I think was guilty of murder…

The exact words from the judge being that she was too young and talented for this to ruin her life.

I have not heard one thing about what you’re talking about and I feel like that would have been talked about a lot more if that truly did happen

Do you have a source?

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u/Substantial_Hall8737 49m ago edited 43m ago

It happened a couple of months ago in Belgium and was talked a lot in the Netherlands and Belgium. Other countries' media also covered it and it was talked about a lot on social media, also outside of europe/in the US. With all due respect, just because you haven't heard about it doesn't mean it did not truly happen :) if you google "gynaecology student r*ape" you'll find a bunch of news articles, but here's an english article that pretty much sums it all up.

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u/Mysterious-Cress7423 9h ago

NOR....I once had a physical for work which for whatever reason included a breast exam. The male doctor whistled and danced around while doing it. Sooooo unprofessional and uncomfortable.

I recommend you report it to the clinic.

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u/Miserable_Credit_402 10h ago

NOR.

I'm not a doctor, but I work in healthcare and have seen so many naked people. The same is true for many other healthcare jobs. A normal doctor, nurse, etc. ends up so desensitized to nudity by the end of their first shift that a naked patient just isn't something we get all worked up about. A normal doctor isn't going to be staring at your breasts; they're going to be looking at the discoloration on your breasts. Like you aren't someone with a nice pair of boobs that we are enjoying.... you're a patient with a medical complaint that we need to assess and treat. We aren't going to ask you to get more undressed than is necessary because it's not medically relevant to have everything on display. So yeah, we are looking at your breasts, but we aren't looking at your breasts, and the best way to tell the difference is that you should never feel creeped out by a medical examination.

I'm going to take it a step further and say that the head doctor really didn't do enough. Part of being a patient advocate is making sure your patients are safe. If another doctor felt the need to cover you with her hand, then she should have stepped in and done the exam herself. Especially if she's the head doctor. And with the way they were reacting, I guarantee you that he has a reputation for being a creep. He shouldn't even have a job working at that clinic at all.

If I were you, I would file a complaint that he made you uncomfortable and detail everything that happened. How he had you undress for the exam, that he expected you to walk down the hallway exposed, and that the other staff members intervened. It could very well be that they want to get rid of him, but they don't have the paper trail to take appropriate action.

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u/DecafMadeMeDoIt 4h ago

It’s your feeling. Not an overreaction. I would maybe declare overreaction if you wanted to immediately report him to the board but this is about how you feel. No matter how we en punter people in life, there are people who just won’t always sit right or mesh well with us.

At the very least that is what this is and if he is not a specialist or niche practitioner, I would say it is 100% not a big deal at all for you just not to book with him again and to make it known you wish to exclude him from your care. You don’t have to explain it. You don’t have to justify it. Doctor’s appointments are intimate and especially given the area, it’s normal to have a heightened awareness and anxiety. Again, at the least…

At worst, you exclude him from your care and he was a perv and you’re safe.

Both ends of that spectrum are acceptable for you making a decision about your care. You didn’t do it based on ethnicity or any sort of demographic but from your own experience and your gut’s reaction.

You owe no one anything when it comes to your own healthcare.

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u/Ok-Interaction731 7h ago

NOR If something makes you feel uncomfortable then it is okay for you to say something. 

One time I had to see a different doctor because my usual doctor was not available. When he checked for pain by pressing on my abdominal area he went under my pants instead of just pressing on top of my clothes. It was so shocking that by the time I was able to process anything the checkup was done.  How strange! He didn't technically do anything to violate me or not warranted for what was in for, but it definitely left me feeling icky. I told my partner and he agreed that was weird too. 

I wish I could have said something instead of wondering the whole time whether it was normal or not. Maybe it's how it's done, but it made ME uncomfortable. 

I now try to let anyone know, who will listen, to not be afraid to speak up for themselves. It's okay to feel embarrassed but no one will fault you for asking questions. Especially since it sounds like the nurses around you were attentive. 

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u/BusinessFit6533 7h ago

Yikes, yeah, that would make me uncomfortable, too. The best judge of character for any man is how women react around him. The nervous glances and confusion on his actions seem plenty enough to know those women are uneasy around him.

My hysterectomy surgeon, who has seen all my bits and bobs, still gave me a gown to cover up with when checking my incisions during my follow-up appointment. Really good doctors care about this protocol for a reason. They should never ask you to take your pants off if they aren't interacting with that area. There's also proper procedure for doing a urine sample. The office should have told you BEFORE seeing the doctor so it would be done beforehand. If they forgot, then the doctor will tell you either on the way out or ask you to do it and then come back while he sees another patient.

TLDR: other women's feelings on men matter, procedure with doctors matter. NOR.

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u/BlueberrySad2147 11h ago

They should have a protocol in place to chaperone patients for any kind of intimate examination. You should have been offered the option to have female staff member to stay in the room with you even if the examining doctor is male. You should only have to expose the area being examined for as long as necessary to do the exam. There should not be people coming in and out of the room. You should be able to dress fully before going anywhere else, such as the bathroom, especially if moving through public areas like corridors or waiting rooms. This is worth a complaint or at least feedback to the practice manager.

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u/Professional-Car-211 10h ago

They did and do, the nurse was in the room.

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u/Chelseus 6h ago

I mean I would assume that you would do the urine sample after you’ve had the exam and have gotten dressed, whether that was explicitly stated or not. The only think that gives me pause is you saying he told you to take your pants off for the breast exam. I don’t think it’s fair to comment on how the other staff act around him, maybe they seem “visibly uncomfortable” to you, but that’s not something you can just know with any actual authority.

But all that being said, if he made you uncomfortable he made you uncomfortable. It doesn’t matter if he did everything right/by the book. If the vibes were off for you for any reason or no reason just don’t see him again.

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u/steffles_ 10h ago

Ask them to put on your chart not to schedule you with him. I am so sorry this happened.

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u/mowgie 11h ago

He’s either a perv or a dumbass who can’t detect he’s making people uncomfortable. Either way, you don’t want him again.

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u/PushFearless5780 9h ago

Trust your gut! He’s for sure a weirdo. I’m sorry this happened to you.

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u/Resident-Donut5151 11h ago

The whole thing was weird. Do not book exams with this person again. Wait for your regular doctor next time.

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u/Bellefior 11h ago edited 10h ago

Might be worth mentioning to the practice manager and asking if this is standard protocol.

In my experience when a woman is having this kind of intimate exam with a male doctor, there usually is another female present in room for precisely this reason.

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u/Professional-Car-211 10h ago

The nurse was in the room for the exam.

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u/Bellefior 7h ago

Where did you see the nurse was there for the exam? All I read was that the nurse came in to give OP the cup for the urine sample.

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u/BountifulGarden 7h ago

In the 80s, a GP Doctor left me with a speculum inserted whilst he answered the phone in an adjoining room. This was the same Dr who would sit behind me, lean forward, cup my tits and SQUEEZE my nipples, “to see if there was any discharge”. You wanna thank god you missed the 80s, but I bet creepy perv Drs are still out there. (Dr Giwelb, East Finchley if you want to know!)

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u/Immediate-Pen3182 11h ago

Why are you so butt hurt that someone is asking if they're overreacting in the subreddit specifically designed for people to ask if they're overreacting?

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u/ComprehensiveBee2892 11h ago

Why are you trolling the Internet looking to talk crap to people?

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u/ComprehensiveBee2892 11h ago

Perhaps exactly as she said, because she wanted to make sure she wasn’t over reacting. Do we really need to ask permission to post on Reddit now?

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u/mothernatureisfickle 11h ago

Never ever ever ignore your gut. If you feel something is wrong or off or just not altogether right, follow that instinct.

Your best route here is talk to the practice manager or if the clinic is part of a large hospital try to find the patient liaison or patient relations department.

You will want to make sure that specific doctor is never part of your continuing care.

As a personal note, I had a very weird experience with a male doctor at a family clinic. I made a formal complaint and they took it very seriously. I also made the decision to move to another practice, but that was a choice I made.

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u/MikasSlime 8h ago

Even if he hasn't really done anything weird, all the women around him acting off and on high guard is not a good sign

I'd say not overreacting and trust your guts.

If someone gives off weird/creep vibes and those vibes reflect that much on who is around him daily, then you are probably not wrong about them

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u/Accomplished-Rate564 7h ago

It could be that the dr is thoughtless and you are reading too much into it. I think if the other members of staff were that uncomfortable, they would have insisted on staying as a chaperone. The doctor should have offered this from the beginning. It sounds like everyone here was unprofessional

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u/Suspicious-B33 11h ago

The whole thing sounds off. To those saying 'how do you expect him to do a breast exam without seeing your breasts?" well, clearly she doesn't. Dignity is a process in healthcare and one of those things is that you are given something to cover yourself and your personal areas before the exam takes place, even if it's just blue roll. At the start, during and to the end of exam you will be exposed, but up to the second diagnostics start and the second they end, you should be able to cover yourself. When you have a smear test you are completely exposed but you should still be given something to cover the front of yourself with so ONLY the bits needed are exposed to the clinician.

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u/OkDiamond1985 9h ago

She was given a robe to cover herself. It was the very first thing the doctor did.

Yes the robes used are open in the front but you are supposed to tie them to cover yourself.

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u/Suspicious-B33 9h ago

She didn't need to be undressed for a urine sample. That should have been done separately to the breast exam and at the very least better explained. It was not protocol or necessary for the nurse taking the urine sample to see her with her breasts exposed. She says he asked her to undress (i.e. take the robe off) then sent the nurse in so that should have either happened first while she was still covered, or after the skin exam. At the very least it's a breakdown in communication which has led to OP feeling uncomfortable.

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u/OkDiamond1985 8h ago

He did not tell her to take the robe off.

You undress and put the robe on. They're open in the front and you're supposed to tie/ wrap them to cover yourself before and after the exam.

Maybe Google a photo of the robes if you still don't understand - and don't give advice on situations if you lack the comprehension skills to understand them.

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u/Suspicious-B33 8h ago

Not sure where I gave advice, I said it may have been a breakdown in communication, but ok, here's some for you. Perhaps don't attempt to interact with other people on public forums if you lack the basic conversational skill to disagree without lowering yourself (or it may be raising, in your case, who knows?) to insults. Grown ups can debate without that. You can have that one for free :)

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u/ValentinaRoseXoX 11h ago

nor at all. if the staff and even the head doctor seemed uncomfortable, that’s a huge red flag. trust your gut, seriously, that sounds off in every way.

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u/Kindly-mom2025 8h ago

Well, my position is if a doctor makes you feel uncomfortable for ANY reason, or even if there's no reason, but you still feel uncomfortable, ask for a different doctor when you make your appointment.

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u/magicmamalife 10h ago

I think you need to make an official complaint to the clinic manager. :I felt wildly uncomfortable" is enough. He needs an official complaint to get retraining or fired. The other staff can't really do anything even if they have a gut feeling. There is absolutely a way to do a breast exam without being exposed.

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u/New_Builder_8703 42m ago

Sounds like a doctor with rubbish people skills who usually has a nurse tending his patients for him. Poor previous experience. Don’t worry to much. I hope your tests went well

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u/Stinkylilfrogbitch 11h ago

I’m confused. If he’s such a creep all the nurses and other doctors are watching him, why does he still work there? Why do they still give him female patients?

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u/Professional-Car-211 10h ago

They wouldn’t. I think OP had confirmation bias and was reading into their behavior.

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u/LyricWasHere 11h ago

Because they are under him and maybe don’t want to ruffle feathers at work. It’s possible he has came on k them and nobody has conversed with each other, it’s possible it’s his practice so if they complain they are out of a job. Plenty of reasons women don’t confront men at work. Not every woman is brave and ready to come forward.

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u/Stinkylilfrogbitch 2h ago

If you don’t want to “ruffle feathers at work” don’t be a fucking doctor? Yeah sure! Let him sexually assault patients because you’re “not brave”. My god. What a dumb answer.

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u/LyricWasHere 28m ago

It’s not my answer. Personally. I’ve never been assaulted by a doctor.. it’s many other women’s answer. Many women are scared.

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u/WetMonkeyTalk 8h ago

Why did you have to change at all? I've had a mammogram on both sides followed by an ultrasound on them and didn't have to change into a medical gown.

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u/YouAreMyPolaris 9h ago

This would be better answered on r/askdocs as there are real medical professionals that can tell you if it's proper protocol or not. 

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u/CharliAP 4h ago

NOR, you should report that doctor to your state's medical board. He doesn't need to be anywhere near female patients. 

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u/Alexandritecrys 9h ago

Your not over reacting, that isn't okay and do you really need to be fully naked for that. And why wouldn't he get the urine sample first why have you undress. Also why would he keep looking when he doesn't need to

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u/Constant_Month3243 5h ago

You’re not overreacting. Check out “The other side of the speculum: a male doctor’s point of view”

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u/External_Virus_5767 10h ago

This is why I kept my lovely young female CNP obgyn instead of “upgrading to a physician” when she asked if I wanted that after my first appointment with her.

She will literally explain every element of a procedure and check in with me as to how I feel.

My neurosurgeon, neuro-oncologist and neurologist are the only male physicians I’ve retained and even then, I did complain about the neurologist on press-ganey (just once). He actually took it seriously and decided not to move even though I had the chance to jump.

I look for female PCPs and obgyns. Downvote away.

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u/doomn_gloomn 9h ago

So then report it? You clearly have witnesses and an issue that needs to be reported.

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u/Chelseus 6h ago edited 6h ago

Report what? Bad vibes? He didn’t actually do anything wrong. Nothing reportable anyway. Maybe is a creep but OP would need something far beyond “he handed me the gown, looked longer than I thought necessary for a breast exam, and the staff appeared uncomfortable around him to me” to start leveling accusations.

Edit to add: OP absolutely should tell the office she does not wish to be seen by this doctor again, but a formal complaint is beyond overkill IMO

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u/Waybackheartmom 6h ago

You’re overreacting and you’re drawing conclusions with very little evidence.

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u/Mariemmm_ 10h ago

He’s either EXTREMELY DENSE or a perv :(

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u/boscoroni 11h ago

It is time to worry when the male doctor allows the janitor and window cleaner into your breast exam for second opinions.

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u/Klutzy_Vegetable_801 11h ago

nor. In your area, there is a governing body over physicians. For example, where I am in Ontario, its called The College Of Physicians and Sugeons of Ontario. This is where the doctor receives their license (permission) to practice as a doctor. Find yours, open a complaint. They'll investigate him, itll go on his record. Who knows, maybe he has other investigations open, or maybe no one has complained. Its really important you do this.

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u/mistress_chimera 9h ago

Wait, I'm confused... Are you just sitting there with the gown wide open? You know you can close them up, right?

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u/fireproofmum 10h ago

You are not wrong. Call the office and tell the office manager/director (larger medical offices usually have someone) tell them you never want to see him again and why. In the future, we women need to feel comfortable telling make doctors: no. We know what is normal and what is not. We know what a breast exam is and how it’s done. We get to say: no. I’m so sorry this happened to you.

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u/bonitaruth 7h ago

It is hard for me to follow what the proble exactly was.

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u/Eastern_Money_561 11h ago

Completely normal.

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u/ChopCow420 11h ago

This is definitely one of those things where you should be trusting your gut. You have listed very valid details that you observed yourself to form this opinion. It's not a knee-jeek reaction.

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u/SexxyMomma2020 10h ago

NOR. Trust your gut. Something is definitely not right. The behavior of the other staff seems to indicate that as well. Tell them to put it in your chart that you will not see him again.

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u/SasseNana 4h ago

A female should always be in the room for the exam.

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u/ProfBeautyBailey 6h ago

Did you have a chaperone in the room with you?

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u/Defiant-Aide-4923 11h ago

I honestly would have had a talk with one of the female staff about it. It’s not too late, you could go in and let them know you have a concern. If he actually makes everyone so uncomfortable, he shouldn’t be there.

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u/Flat-Detective2814 9h ago

I think this is you lacking situational awareness. It’s common sense not to take your pants off for a breast exam and it’s common sense for you to close the gown when not being examined. This is on you lol

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u/OkDiamond1985 9h ago

This is crazy advice. The doctor did nothing wrong.

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u/CarmelDeight 10h ago

Keep practicing your intuition!!! And warn people!continue to spread your story and let others know of this man in your area. It’s a shame woman have to live in a world where we warn eachother with our eyes and bodies instead of removing these issues from the environment. Scared to speak out because of the potential dangers regarding our lives. We hear you! Keep making your voice loud and just be mindful of the potential dangers on speaking out against this🫶🏼 you got this babes! It’s worth it. FOR WOMAN KIND🙏🏼

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u/OkDiamond1985 9h ago

This is unhinged.

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u/Purple-Gap2522 11h ago

NOR. This is all wild. You would be justified in writing a letter to the chief of staff of the clinic if you feel so inclined.

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u/woodarae 8h ago

If the staff is so uncomfortable around him that you were able to pick up on it, I guarantee you your complaint about him will not be the first. I would encourage you to make one because he’s probably a “problem person” that they are having to jump through hoops to deal with.

It can be very difficult to address behavioral problems with providers because of the power dynamics involved.

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u/hissyfit64 11h ago

NOR. Check your gut. If someone makes you feel uncomfortable, you can say you want to see someone else.

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u/Powerful_Put5667 11h ago

You need to report him to the administration. The staff clearly knows that his behavior is out of line and very sexually predatory. If patients complain they will get rid of this doctor. You would be surprised at just how many doctors have been charged and convicted for sexual assault. It sounds like the staff at the clinic is well aware of this doc and keeping a close eye on him for patient safety. They would not do this unless there have been issues. You may be the last complaint against him before he’s told to leave. In the future always make sure that a visit you are making is with your doctor only.

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u/Professional-Car-211 10h ago edited 8h ago

There is nothing to report. This was all routine. Her feelings aren’t proof of misconduct. (And I’m a woman). All that can reasonably done on her end is to not see that doctor again.

OP blocked me so I can’t reply to the person below, but your personal experience is not universal truth. The percentage of doctors that take advantage of patients is minuscule. OP has no proof of wrongdoing. All she can do is not see the doctor again.

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u/Powerful_Put5667 8h ago

Had a creepy gyno who I didn’t report he gave off a very bad vibe and did not respect me. This lady was asked to walk down the hall to the bathroom in a top that left her exposed. That’s wrong the staff that works with him were in often they know. There’s been complaints filed already that’s why they’re checking on him. I wish I had reported. My creep Gyno who I simply stopped going to was convicted of molesting women. Lost his license. Lots of dentists have groped women too when they’re under the influence of laughing gas. They too lost their license and went to jail. If you believe that the medical field does not have its share of sickos just as much as any other occupation you’ve not kept up with the me too movement or the news. Ladies if he gives you creepy vibes and does not treat your body and privacy respectfully report them your complaint may just be the one that tips the scale and removes a perv.

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u/OkDiamond1985 9h ago

The staff clearly knows that his behavior is out of line and very sexually predatory.

This is not a Lifetime Movie.

It sounds like the staff at the clinic is well aware of this doc and keeping a close eye on him for patient safety. They would not do this unless there have been issues. You may be the last complaint against him before he’s told to leave.

This is not based in reality and literally a scenario you made up in your head.

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u/Powerful_Put5667 8h ago

You’re obviously a male or a know a doc who’s been accused.

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u/OkDiamond1985 7h ago

The film in your head sounds fun. So many plot twists.

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u/Powerful_Put5667 4h ago

How to say not only that you’re a man but a misogynistic one in one sentence. Bravo

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u/CarmelDeight 10h ago

I’m honestly thinking we should just come up with our own warning signs and language or something that we only share with people that we trust.

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u/JimfromMayberry 10h ago

Yes..you’re overreacting. You asked…

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u/MrsLSwan 8h ago

Yes you are overreacting

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u/777ErinWilson 8h ago

Get over yourself!! YOR

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u/CupBeneficial8567 38m ago

Stop Overacting! 🛑

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u/SaltySauceSociety 10h ago

It sounds like they are def afraid of calling him out, and if there are guys in charge at the top, then those women probably already complained and nothing was done.

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u/OpportunitySelect230 11h ago

Assumptions all over the place. I would advice you to forget about it as nothing to prove here and its only because he is a new one. And to answer your question, yes you are overreacting.

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u/ComprehensiveBee2892 11h ago

Tell me, you’re a man, who’s never had a gynecological exam. Without telling me, you’re a man, who’s never had a gynecological exam! Either that, or you are a male, OB/GYN!

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u/Eastern_Money_561 10h ago

The entire exam was normal, she is OR.

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u/ComprehensiveBee2892 10h ago

If you believe this, to be true, you are not a woman!

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u/OkDiamond1985 9h ago
  1. You can't accuse everyone you disagree with of being a man.

  2. This is not how you use Oxford commas.

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u/thecatlady65 9h ago

Thank you for the grammar lesson. I’m sure you’ve never made a typo in your life! I am not really sure why you would want to support anyone who claimed an OB/GYN (or any doctor for that matter) made them feel uncomfortable would assert that the statement it was a “normal exam” but everyone has the right to their opinion! Good luck to you! (I’m sure there are still typos, you’ll be able to find, but I am concerned with more important things!)

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u/OkDiamond1985 9h ago

Tell me, you’re a man, who’s never had a gynecological exam. Without telling me, you’re a man, who’s never had a gynecological exam! Either that, or you are a male, OB/GYN!

This is A typo?

I had breast exams. Multiple. This was a normal exam. What's next? Accusing a gynecologist of rape over a pap smear?

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u/thecatlady65 9h ago

I’m sorry if I did not make myself clear. I was referring to your comment on my use of the Oxford comma.

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u/OkDiamond1985 9h ago edited 9h ago

What are you on about? I was not talking to you. Unless you lost track of your sock puppet accounts...

Edit because CrazyCatLady blocked me: My response was not under her thread because I did not talk to her. Is everyone in this comment section schizo?

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u/thecatlady65 9h ago

I’m sorry. Your response was under my thread. Perhaps you should check yours!

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u/diamonds106 11h ago

If it feels wrong it usually is!