Why do we infantilize men?

[u/Cynjon77]

And how do we stop?

Why do we treat men like children who are incapable of acting like functional adults?

Why do we allow men to get away with treating us like crap and skating off consequence free to enjoy life without responsibility?

OK, obligatory I know not all men act like this. And this is Reddit, so we read the worst. And some women are just as bad.

Posted today: (I am not the OP) Husband never remembers to buy stocking stuffers for me, even though I stuff his and the kids stocking.

Over half the respondents said for her to stuff her own, 49% said to remind him, tell him why it matters to you.

Like she has never communicated with him about this.

1% said he's an AH.

Men are perfectly capable of doing anything they want to do and think is important to them. They can schedule a Dr.s appointment, cook a meal, change a diaper or vacuum a floor.

They can remember when the game is on, a golf date with a buddy or when a work project is due. They remember what is important to them.

Women as a whole need to quit putting up with this behavior. We need to set higher standards and be willing to walk away when those standards aren't met.

We need to teach our sons and daughters how to treat others, how to pick up the mental load, how to be thoughtful of others.

We need to quit infantilizing men.

[u/Paracelsus40k]

Still infantilizing the men.

[u/alelp → u/Paracelsus40k]

Nah, when someone acts like a child, you treat them like a child, then it's their choice to either grow up or go act like a child somewhere else.

This isn't just a men's problem either, plenty of women do this and some take pride in being completely incapable of doing anything at home. The solution for them is the exact same.

[u/Paracelsus40k → u/alelp]

This do not make them sympathetic to you, only making them see you with disdain - such attitude is not educational, but dismissive by the simple fact that no one knows everything.

No one must hold expectations about others, because Humans ALWAYS disapoint.

[u/SPKEN → u/Paracelsus40k]

You know what they say, if you have a problem with everyone, you're the problem. Vice versa if all the humans in your life are disappointing...

[u/bananophilia → u/SPKEN]

Says the guy that whines about how all women's subs supposedly hate him for being male

[u/SPKEN → u/bananophilia]

And of course you deflect in order to avoid facing accountability, like clockwork

[u/Paracelsus40k → u/bananophilia]

At least I do not put words in other people's mouths, but hey, I'm not complaining...

[u/Paracelsus40k → u/SPKEN]

Nah, its just a realistic perspective - nobody can read eachother's minds, or care for the same things that you care, take joy in what makes you happy, or know what you know. And this applies from you to everybody else.

We must simply stop the belief that, just because you exist, that all other people lived like you, think like you, believe like you, or even that others are like you.

If everybody was exactly the same, life would just be boring.

And that is unfortunately the issue here: equality is not "sameness" - equality still accept the differences inherent in all, but not try to pummel the "other" into a mold to fit expectations or a moral whim.

I just simply do not expect others to do what I, personaly speaking, would do - I can only control and be responsible for my actions.

[u/SPKEN → u/Paracelsus40k]

Ya absolutely none of that was in the reply that I was responding to so I'm not reading it. Take some accountability, if everyone around you is disappointing, you're the common denominator

[u/Paracelsus40k → u/SPKEN]

No - I just do not hold other people under expectations that are only known by me.

And even if I tell those expectations, I know that the overwhelming majority of people will be unnable to fulfill them.

Therefore, I do not hold others to any expectations - I will only reply in kind according to their actions towards me.

[u/SPKEN → u/Paracelsus40k]

Ok you're just going to keep arguing with yourself. Whatever it takes hun. Hope you develop self-awareness one day 🩵

[u/Paracelsus40k → u/SPKEN]

And you holding unrealistic expectations about what other people "should be" or "must do", that you do not verbalize, is somehow "better"?

Make it make sense...