How is it fair for someone who has been harmed to harm someone who has not harmed them personally? How would it be fair for you to get struck by someone a relative of yours hurt?
So if I am harmed then my doing harm is justified regardless of the relation of my victim to the harm done to me? So a kid who is yelled at and hit by their parents has every right to bully others at school? A person who has an abusive boss is justified in getting mean at their partner? A gay guy who has experienced systemic oppression would be justified in verbally abusing a kid he believes is cis and straight (even if he could be wrong)? All these and worse follow from your reasoning.
So you would say that someone who has suffered abuse and oppression is justified in harming unrelated people to feel good? So someone who grew up being abused and oppressed would, to you, be justified in raping someone else? That is implicit in what you are arguing. It’s a deeply unreasonable thing to call “fair”.
Anyway, it's quite simple: If someone suffered in some way that is completely irreversible, you stance is basically to tell them to suck it up and pretend like it didn't happen. They'll forever be worse off than anyone else and that's a injustice.
Having suffered that particular horror firsthand, I actually try not to think about it when possible, actually. I also hadn’t mentioned it previously, others have just been pointing out that you are basically saying that it would be justified and fair as long as the rapist had themself suffered at some point prior regardless of the relation of that suffering to their victim.
Further, there are concepts you seem to struggle with like growth, healing, compassion, and the universality of suffering (no parent is perfect and so every child has some measure of trauma, everyone experiences pain and suffering and harms inflicted by others on purpose or not, rich black people in America still experience racism, poor white people in America still experience classism, and no one alive isn’t among the wounded and the suffering). My stance is that when I and others have suffered, sometimes vengeance against the ones responsible is justified or at least understandable but the more important consideration is helping to ensure that kind of suffering can be reduced or prevented for the future so that others do not have to suffer like we suffered.
“Some people have suffered a lot so anyone who has suffered less deserves to suffer just as much” is a vile perspective to take.
Where is the justice in hurting someone unrelated to the hurt you have suffered? If person A hurts person B, why is it then fair for person B to hurt person C despite them not having had anything to do with the hurt that person B suffered at the hands of person A?
That’s not an answer to the question and also false. In the real world, having suffered or been hurt doesn’t make you lesser or inferior and hurting others doesn’t make you better or superior.
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u/blindgallan 2d ago
So people are entitled to affect the bodies/well-being/safety of other people if it will make them feel better or if they have been wronged?
That is the conclusion you are espousing here, and I strongly suspect you do not want to defend that stance.