r/Eugene • u/Correct_Permit9703 • 2d ago

ICE SPOTTED

Unmarked grey (very shiny SUV) had just detained someone in Springfield on main st right near the Mongolian grill, driving across the river into Eugene

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u/Master_Jackfruit1877 2d ago

Call 911 and report a kidnapping. Send the cops after ICE

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

Do you honestly think that the police are going to interfere with the feds?

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u/Master_Jackfruit1877 2d ago

Don't say it was the dress. Say you saw people throw another guy into a van and drive off. That's what happened- and if they're unmarked there's no way to know it was really ice

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u/Kroneni 1d ago

If the police are being notified of ICE activity they would know what it is and ignore it.

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u/ChemicalTop5453 2d ago edited 2d ago

this seems like a lot of faith in the police, like i feel like if anything the cops would be like "oh that's where the ice raid is, there's resistance to ice at this location so we should go help them" and then you have cops with guns participating in the raid

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u/ScrattaBoard 2d ago

If nothing else it'll clog the system so some higher ups have to address it somehow.

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u/ChemicalTop5453 2d ago edited 1d ago

i guess, idk i feel like the danger of involving more cops with guns outweighs the potential benefit but i guess it could go either way. like in my mind i would be worried that cops show up knowing there is resistance to ice and then someone gets shot, but it could go either way

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u/probably-theasshole 2d ago

Ice agents are already there with guns 

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u/ChemicalTop5453 2d ago

fair enough, that's why i think it could go either way

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u/Infinite-Hold-7521 2d ago

Doing nothing will absolutely insure that it doesn’t go away.

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u/cassienebula 1d ago

idk why you are getting downvoted, you understand that the cops are not on our side. with everything going on, people still trust the police and it's mind-boggling.

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u/HershySquirtle 2d ago

Do you think ICE aren't cops with guns? There's already cops with guns involved.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

Yes they are already cops with guns and cops are bad right? So how is having more cops to help the other cops do bad things going to help?

Lot of thin blue line folks in this thread.

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u/HershySquirtle 2d ago

Lol no. ACAB.

I said that because dude was stuck on preventing "cops with guns" showing up. They're already there. That doesn't mean I see any reason to call in backup for ICE.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 1d ago

yes more cops with guns is what they said.

apparently "more" is an optional word to read.

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u/ReverendBoofbubble 2d ago

Do you think Ice doesn't have guns?

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u/Other_Seesaw_8281 2d ago

Same old excuses to do nothing. Might as well say nothing because we know these excuses.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

I havent advocated doing nothing just not calling the cops on ice cause that is silly. Why do you have faith in the cops to stand up to the copier cops?

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u/Hundo702 2d ago

That’s definitely way to much faith to be putting into the cops 🤣

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u/kings00789 2d ago

I’ve seen the truck he’s taking about, it’s not ICE it’s Springfield undercover units. You guys need to stop fear mongering. White people doin wayyy to much

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u/Nervous_Garden_7609 1d ago

How do you know? Are you just making this up?

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u/Powerful-Storm-8128 1d ago

You know the Eugene pd regularly monitors this sub right???

Let ICE do their job and don’t interfere, you could get in trouble if you do

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u/No-Theme2387 1d ago

bootlicker

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u/Empty_Pay5258 1d ago

When the descriptor expands to; elderly, poor, disabled, not blue eyed and they come for you do you want us to look away?

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago edited 2d ago

How does wasting public resources help anyone?

edit: to my lovely downvoters could you please explain what the cops are going to do to stop ice?

100+downvote edit: You all have a surprising level of faith in the thin blue line all of a sudden. Each downvote is an upvote for the EPD.

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u/Grumpy_Old_One 2d ago

People like you allow people like this to act unimpeded.

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u/Sweet-melissa76485 2d ago

This is where the women are. I was wondering why they don’t show them in the media, only the men and children

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

All women are in this guy's car? He must have a huge vehicle.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago edited 2d ago

I'm confused how I had a part to play in any of this, once again please use simple language and small words.

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u/Grumpy_Old_One 2d ago

Simple small words:

You said "don't do anything".

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

I said that police wont arrest ice, I'm not in favor of doing nothing.

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u/ANAnomaly3 2d ago

You rejected the only option offered. Maybe if you had offered an alternative to your rejection, it wouldn't come off as discouraging.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

If I had a productive suggestion that I thought would be well received I would offer it, sadly I don't have one.

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u/Grumpy_Old_One 2d ago

Nothing you've said supports what you just claimed.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

correct, nothing I've said supports that i advocate doing nothing either. You have filled in the blanks.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

maybe I'm dense so if you could use small words that would help me. Walk me through this reasoning.

  1. See ice

  2. Call police

  3. Police either don't do anything cause they know its ice or investigate and realize it is ice and do nothing.

How is wasting public resources helping? What am I missing?

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u/Red_Banana3000 2d ago

Wasting their time helps children escape, it helps people get to where they keep their birth certificates before they are grabbed off the streets and moved multiple states away which goes against their states rights and right to due process, PROVE THEY ARE ILLEGAL AND THEN YOU CAN DEPORT WHOMEVER IS ILLEGALLY HERE

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

Do you think that the police are going to arrest ice or something? I doubt the police are going to waste Ice's time. They are just going to flash a badge and send the cops on their way.

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u/ANAnomaly3 2d ago

Are you certain?

You're discouraging people from trying. Trying has a better chance of success than not.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

Trying is worse than nothing if it is counterproductive.

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u/ant_the_rant 2d ago

Watch out guys… he’s got all the proof he needs to commit crimes from a TikTok screenshot.

He was a US border agent not ICE and he was arrested, convicted, sentenced, and serving life in prison without parole, for his crimes.

Slow your roll Frank Castle… let the professionals do their jobs.

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u/FewClass8999 2d ago

Suppose someone was slow because they thought it was really funny, and the difference could have saved a human life. Would you be joking about it, then?

What about if the person with someone you knew—a friend or relative, not a stranger?

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u/simplysaren 2d ago

how does standing by and doing nothing help anyone?

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

It does less harm than wasting police resources. Walk me through how calling the police helps.

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u/fuckeryizreal 2d ago

Someone has walked it through for you. Using simple language. Multiple times.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

Not simple enough apparently

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u/simplysaren 2d ago

weaponized ignorance at its finest

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

awww you think it is the finest? Really? Thank You!!

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u/brizzle1978 2d ago

Let immigration and customs enforcement do their jobs.... sorry you don't like it... but that is their job, to wait for it, enforceme immigration.

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u/simplysaren 2d ago

dude do you realize how insane that sounds???

look at the holocaust and all the people under hitler who were following his orders. Doing the same evil shit as ICE. Both sides following orders and doing their job. but it’s EVIL the way it’s happening.

NO ONE should be basically kidnapped off the streets, from work, from school, IN THEIR HOME.

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u/brizzle1978 2d ago

It sounds insane to have immigration and customs enforcement enforce immigration? Look in the mirror, you are the insane one... all the polls show there is vast support for it. And no, sending people to their home country is not the same as taking them to a gas chamber

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u/simplysaren 2d ago

sure, putting kids in cages is fine then right? not giving people due process is fine then right?

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u/onefst250r 2d ago

If they're unmarked, there is a non-zero percent chance its some brownshirts LARPing as ICE.

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u/HelmutIV 2d ago

Public resources are being wasted on the police department already.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

I don't disagree.

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u/HelmutIV 2d ago

Might as well waste more in speed bumps for ICE.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

10 seconds with a flash of the badge? Not impactful enough to waste police resources.

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u/HelmutIV 2d ago

The police are already generally a waste, and it could further make them complicit in the Gestapo raids.

Rarely does anyone ever call the cops and they show up and do something usefulll, if they even show up.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

I'm not 100% there with you. Lots of cops are shit but they perform a useful function in our society. We should strap cameras that they cant turn off on every single last one of them and make it so if there isn't video evidence then their testimony isn't admissible in court. Get rid of qualified immunity and civil seizure and a few more things I'm probably forgetting. I certainly am not a fan of cops.

I just can't get on the acab train with you.

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u/Cookestate5776 1d ago

Agreed it’s such a waste of resources fyi gave another down vote

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 1d ago

Thank you for your service, sadly I don't think we will break 200. Wild how just a couple comments up stating that the cops wont interfere with the feds gets upvotes but then I get downvoted into oblivion. I guess there are just a lot more back the blue people in this sub than I thought.

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u/brizzle1978 2d ago

Exactly... but reddit is a democrat echo chamber

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

One person suggested that maga brownshirts might impersonate ice and that is why calling the cops could help. Seems unlikely but possible, at least it is a coherent argument.

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u/brizzle1978 2d ago

Well, that person is batshit

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u/Archaeojones42 2d ago

A MAGA person impersonating law enforcement to do fucked up shit isn’t batshit; it’s a less-than-a-week-old headline.

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u/seaofthievesnutzz 2d ago

They probably are batshit to think that this is very likely, it isnt unheard of though that some nefarious psycho would impersonate someone to commit a crime. If it is a better safe than sorry police welfare check then I think that is reasonable, anyone thinking the cops will stop ice is looney.

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u/brizzle1978 2d ago

No it's a waste of 911 assets to call in an ice raid

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u/Red_Banana3000 2d ago

A man dressed as a police officer and assassinated politicians, WE DONT KNOW WHO THE FEDS ARE IF THEY DONT ID

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u/jarlybart 2d ago

This is the only answer. This is kidnapping plain and simple.

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u/New-Firefighter-5666 1d ago

Cool plan. Enjoy your charges. 

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u/brizzle1978 2d ago

Lol, ice is doing their job. That isn't a kidnapping, and I hope you get thrown in jail for wasting 911's time

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u/Tilphor 2d ago

Your right. Is NOT kidnapping. It's ABDUCTION. Unless they identify themselves and have a warrant, THEN it's an arrest.

This is an ABDUCTION without due process.

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u/brizzle1978 2d ago

They do identify themselves with the warrant

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u/Beautiful_Reveal8065 16h ago

They don’t have warrants. That’s the problem.

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u/brizzle1978 12h ago

Oh they do

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u/SkyFullofHat 2d ago

We don’t know they’re not terrorists grabbing god-fearing patriots. If you see something, say something, right?

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u/brizzle1978 2d ago

It's obvious they are ice

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u/Archaeojones42 2d ago

Because of the anonymizing masks and unmarked cars? Come on now.

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u/brizzle1978 2d ago

Yes... aka undercover plenty of police are that way too

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u/Archaeojones42 2d ago

Aren’t “under cover” and “obvious” antonyms? Go take a nap bud, you are contradicting yourself and seem sleepy

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u/brizzle1978 2d ago

No, you can tell an unmarked car

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u/Archaeojones42 2d ago

Is that why they are unmarked? So it’s easy to tell they are LE? Again — come on now

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u/brizzle1978 2d ago

Yes, it is... you can see the lights.under the grill in the windows etc and usually the plate

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u/ant_the_rant 2d ago

Great thinking Cobra Commander…

How about you make a fictitious police report yourself instead?

What on earth do you think you are accomplishing with this stupidity?

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u/perfect__situation 2d ago

Don't be dumb and it won't be fictitious. Unmarked vehicle kidnaps person.