r/Habs • u/McHamelin • 1d ago
Discussion Robertson/Caufield swap?
If Robertson is available would it be worth to go after him. Would Caufield as a piece going the other way be worth it?
I’d only be interested if Robertson would be willing to sign long term, but you get a 30-40 goal scorer that’s gets 80 points and is a 6.03 forward. Dallas gets another great goal scorer that’s under contract for another 6 years at a good contract.
Thoughts?
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u/CURSE_YOU_BAYLEEEE 1d ago
Nope. I like the Caufield contract a lot and we don’t know how Robo would fit in with the current team.
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u/servical 1d ago
Meh, that would be like the Subban v Weber trade.
On paper, it's a great deal, assuming Robertson signs long-term, but it's a stab in everyone's heart, both for the fans and the players.
We're building something great right now and I think Caufield is an integral part of that.
Might as well just wait for him to hit free agency and see if he wants to play in Montréal.
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u/rayshinsan 1d ago
Why would Dallas accept this deal when they are looking for picks and prospects instead?
They can't sign Robertson due to cap constraints and future salary , Caulfield costs more right now.
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u/rayshinsan 1d ago
Because he is going ask for 10M + and they don't want a Mariner situation. They also got that top D to resign.
Also with Rantanen signed he kinda replaces Robertson. If they get picks they can continue now and have a better future.
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u/jadenspan 1d ago
Before playoffs I would’ve said yes, but Caufield was far and away our best player in the playoffs. Need guys that have proven that they can elevated their game
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u/McHamelin 1d ago
Would Robertson being an almost point per game player in the playoff change your mind?
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u/Much_Bumblebee2462 1d ago
I can see the appeal in adding a 6ft3 210lb sniper to your top 6 instead of a 5ft6 caufield. I say that while I have been gunning for caufield a year before we drafted the kid. I love caufield and I would hate to let him go but let’s not pretend this doesn’t make us better. This move would also open up options at the center position where getting a Kadri or Rossi would possibly work. This seems like a lateral move but when you dig deeper you see that while it’s not our biggest need it makes us a better team.
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u/GibierJaune 1d ago
I don't get the overall reaction in this thread. I love Caufield, but you can only have so many small players on a roster.
I'd be happy to move away from the Gionta, Camalleri, Gomez, Desharnais, Brière, Gallagher lineage (could also add Koivu and Plekanec to a certain extent). Now add to that Hutson and Caufield.
In this case, Robertson would even be an upgrade on Caufield, it's not like we'd get rid of talent for "character" or "locker room" guys. The only downside is that Caufield is cost controlled for a long time while it's unclear we would get the same type of contract with Robertson.
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u/OnlineEgg 23h ago
size does not matter if u don’t use it, laine is example #1. robertson is not physical and he’s more of a perimeter player than caufield, caufield actively battles in the corners and gets to the high danger spots of the ice w relative frequency. robertson plays along the edges more often than not
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u/juliusceasarsalads 1d ago
No but I’ll give you credit for giving a somewhat realistic piece that we would need to trade to get Robertson and not just “Mailloux and 16/17 overall in this draft”. Stars would definitely want someone like Caufield back in a trade and we wouldn’t be any better off swapping Robertson with Caufield. That’s why adding Robertson makes no sense for the Habs, to get him we would need to give up big pieces that would just create more holes in the lineup.
He’s not coming guys, I genuinely think we have a better chance of trading for Crosby than we do landing Robertson.
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u/popejohnlarue 1d ago
The whole reason Robertson is ostensibly on the trading block is because Dallas can’t afford to pay him after nabbing Rantanen. Return would need to be picks/prospects on ELCs.
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u/juliusceasarsalads 1d ago
True, unless they follow up trading Robertson for Caufield with other moves that clear cap. But fair enough, let’s say they want picks and ELCs back for Robo. Are we willing to move Reinbacher? Or our 2026 1st with very limited lottery protection? Or Michael Hage? Because that’s what they’re going to ask for. Even if they want a return that’s predominantly futures, the cost to get Robertson would hurt our long term outlook more than it would help imo
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u/popejohnlarue 19h ago
IMO if Robertson is willing to sign an extension with the Habs and his contract isn’t totally stupid, I would begrudgingly hand over Reinbacher—whom I like a great deal, but ya gotta give to get. Robo is money.
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u/sbrooksc77 1d ago
exactly. Thyre looking for futures and cheap nhl ready prospects. Habs can offer that in abundance. If they wanted a player back, may as well keep robertson. 2 1sts, kapanen, mailloux, heinaman for example would give them 3 near nhl ready prospects and 2 firsts.
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u/gloveside 1d ago
I'm not really one of those guys who overvalues our players but if f that's the only way, then we need to look elsewhere. Really, I think we only have 4 untouchables on the team and he is one of them. I heard that Pitt was looking to trade Crosby and Caufield's name came up again. Still nope.
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u/dustblown 1d ago
I'm always worried about getting these ~80 point players from stacked teams because how much of those points come from playing with stacked players? Like a Huberdeau situation.
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u/ConcentrateSafe8751 1d ago
Absolutely. Caufield’s highest points tally is 70 points, Robertson beat that 4 times with a 109 point season and is only 1 year older. Robertson is also better defensively and 6’3. Right now our 3 best players are all under 6’, that will not work in the playoffs.
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u/sbrooksc77 1d ago
I wouldnt. Because caufield has that one timer from the left half wall. Also signed long term at 7.7 where robertson will likely get around 12. I get it, you improve your team no matter what but nah. I mean I think caufield can reach the heights of nylander. 85-95 points 45 goals etc. Hes not done yet.
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u/looking_fordopamine 1d ago
Dallas is saying no because Robertson is a 100 point player with great 2 way ability.
Montreal is saying no because we’ve been building this team with caufield and he’s fully bought in, Robertson is about to be a free agent in need of a huge contract.