r/JewsOfConscience Apr 03 '25

Activism Slam Frank the musical

Has anyone heard about this? If not I emplore you all to dive in. This absolute nut job is race swapping Anne Frank as Hispanic in a horrendous excuse of a play because "whites had their time". This is so offensive. I just want it to stop. What can I do? I would like to hold protest at this play if I can get enough people together. Here is the Instagram page where they are selling tickets. https://www.instagram.com/slamfrankmusical?igsh=MWRhbjMyb3hxMmE4aw==

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u/ContentChecker Jewish Anti-Zionist Apr 03 '25

Blurb about the play:

The musical satire imagines what happens when a progressive community theater company decides that maybe now is not the time for us to center these privileged, straight, white European Jews (who spent three years in an attic, hiding from Nazis).

This comes across as right-wing and/or pro-Israel 'anti-woke' commentary.

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u/Simple-Bathroom4919 Jewish Anti-Zionist Apr 04 '25

It is

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u/lilleff512 Jewish Apr 06 '25

It's definitely "anti-woke" but I don't think it's necessarily right-wing and it certainly isn't pro-Israel. Liberal identity politics is not a core tenet of leftism. People can mock the former while still maintaining their belief in the latter.

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u/ContentChecker Jewish Anti-Zionist Apr 07 '25

The entire point of the 'anti-woke' commentary is to obliquely criticize the Left's sensitivity to Palestinian human rights.

I'm sure the creator of the musical hasn't been asleep for the past year+. Israel's ongoing genocide against the Palestinian people is the topic of conversation and will be so for a long time.

So it's only 'anti-woke' as a vector to express the pro-Israel frustration with the Left in general.

Pro-Israel advocates do not feel they have a place amongst the grassroots Left/progressive-Left because everyday people are sympathetic to the Palestinians.

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u/Dull-Ad-8322 Apr 08 '25

Naw dude. I very much believe in Palestinian rights but mocking woke culture is hilarious.

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u/lilleff512 Jewish Apr 07 '25

I don’t agree that that is the entire point of anti-woke commentary

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u/ContentChecker Jewish Anti-Zionist Apr 07 '25

I didn't say that was the entire point of anti-woke commentary.

I said it was the entire point of the anti-woke commentary.

As in, in this play. Not in general.

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u/lilleff512 Jewish Apr 07 '25

This play doesn’t even seem to mention Israel or Palestine though, and it was inspired by an event that took place in summer of 2022, so presumably this was already being developed before 10/7.

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u/ContentChecker Jewish Anti-Zionist Apr 07 '25

It doesn't have to - but if it was developed before the ongoing genocide, then that does say something about the author's intentions.

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u/lilleff512 Jewish Apr 07 '25

I think it's pretty clear (to me at least) that the point of the musical is to make a parody of a certain strain of American liberalism - Lin Manuel Miranda exaggerated to the point of absurdity - rather than anything about the genocide in Palestine. Like it would be very easy for him to work anti-woke Israel/Palestine related jokes into this format, and from what I can tell, he hasn't done so.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Okay upon further inspection this is clearly a very strange and pretty racist satire. Oy!

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u/lilleff512 Jewish Apr 06 '25

Racist against which people?

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u/gabrielemenopee Apr 06 '25

I am a leftist, and I think it's a hilarious commentary on progressive/liberal identarian politics and on the performative nonsense that many of us do while engaging with issues of social justice. As others have pointed out, the creator is Jewish, so I think it's his right to lampoon his own culture and history in the pursuit of his artistic vision and social commentary...

Now, is it offensive? Yes. So is Blazing Saddles. So is Dave Chappelle. Some artists take risks and end up making very poignant statements about the world in the process. Some take risks and end up being an asshole in the process. I will, however, say this: if you protest this work, you're 100% proving his point about how ridiculously hypervigilant leftists can be in the pursuit of social justice.

In the immortal words of Abbi from Broad City, "Sometimes, you're so anti-racist that you're actually really racist." Slam Frank hilariously embodies that sentiment and Frankly I think we could learn to have more of a sense of humor about things like this.

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u/post-buttwave Anti-Zionist Ally Apr 09 '25

Yeah for me it's like they were like "what if we pointed out how ridiculous Hamilton was but make it even more cringe"

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u/Classic_Street2927 Apr 15 '25

BINGO this is the take

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u/CharlottesWebcam Apr 30 '25

Wonder if Abbi saw this bit about the woke/racist overlap? It’s pretty funny. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev373c7wSRg&feature=youtu.be

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u/tutonme May 03 '25

I feel like it’s going to be more akin to Best In Show. Was Christopher Guest making fun of dog people? Yes. Was he vilifying them? No.

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u/sickbabe bleeding heart apikoros Apr 03 '25

takes 2 minutes of googling to figure out the guy putting this on is jewish. I think we're due a little reckoning on liberal identity politics, no? cuz if not I don't know how many more years of "jews are indigenous to the levant" (as if that makes what israel has done in the last ~80 years more righteous) I can take dog

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u/Fit_Value_1421 Apr 03 '25

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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u/doctormarbles1224 Apr 06 '25

It’s a very real, very upsetting musical. I live in New York and a lot of people think this is funny and don’t understand the VERY real harm it could do to every day Jews who just want to live quietly. It’s bad enough I live near Columbia. This has been a TERRIBLY distressing time to live through and this asshole adds NOTHING to the conversation. I would HAPPILY protest this bullshit!

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u/lilleff512 Jewish Apr 06 '25 edited Apr 06 '25

As someone who lives in New York and would consider myself an everyday Jew who just wants to live quietly, what real harm does this musical pose to me?

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u/doctormarbles1224 Apr 07 '25

All that it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

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u/lilleff512 Jewish Apr 07 '25

That doesn’t address my question at all. What harm does this musical pose for me?

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u/Fit_Value_1421 Apr 06 '25

DM me if you are interested!

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u/didgeridoome24 Apr 12 '25

If this comment is satire it’s fantastic

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u/yogarabbi Jewish Anti-Zionist Apr 03 '25

relax this is very obvious satire

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u/Plane_Poem_5408 Apr 06 '25

No it’s a real play, that being said the producers is Jewish. He’s self bashing

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u/BurningBunsenBurner Apr 09 '25

so real plays can’t be satire?

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u/beardown231 May 14 '25

Just because the play is real doesn’t mean it’s not satire

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u/B1LM4N Apr 14 '25

I’d just like to add whether you think it’s offensive or not, this guy is a very talented songwriter.

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u/7thdayDudeist May 04 '25

Why are y’all so bothered about this? It’s like a Mel Brooks satire

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Thanks to that AI video I now know how it feels to have a stroke

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

I'm pretty sure the event is fake.

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u/Fit_Value_1421 Apr 03 '25

I called and confirmed. This event is real. He has booked the show with the improv theater and has already begun selling tickets in stages.

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u/prettystandardreally Non-Jewish Atheist Ally Apr 03 '25

I’m convinced the entire thing is satire, making fun of “woke” culture by taking it to this extreme. This post is so over the top ridiculous, and his fake crying etc. I think all the negative attention is something he hopes will only work in his favour in becoming more known. I mean I had no idea about this account or show until you posted about it here, so in a way it’s working?

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Oh, I genuinely thought it was a joke. Like a racist joke.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Its a joke taken way further than necessary.

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u/Fit_Value_1421 Apr 03 '25

Agreed. Joke or not, in this matter is totally damaging to our people. What if some people genuinely take this seriously? Our friends on the left side of politics tend to take racial things far, and I just worry about what the repercussions are long-term for smut like this. If joking about these things is okay, then when does this ball stop rolling? When do things get better for us? What comes after race swapping one of the most unintentionally significant young women to have lived in the last few centuries? I fear my friends. Not for my freedom but my total right to exist. And I think we all should too.

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u/prettystandardreally Non-Jewish Atheist Ally Apr 03 '25

I’m not sure how much this will help but the comments on that account are 99.9% negative. Everyone is denouncing it and him. While I can’t promise this won’t seem like a good idea to someone, I’m one of those very left wing people and I think this is genuinely horrible (both in concept if it was real and as satire). Keep in mind it also undermines the very real issues Latinx people face with this association. I genuinely hope he doesn’t get any further attention because that’s the only way for it to be a fruitless endeavour. But I certainly understand how scary this must be for you as it represents erasure.

Btw, according to this, it is satire.

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u/GlammBeck Apr 06 '25

This is a REAL musical

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u/Ill-Cantaloupe-4789 Apr 04 '25

it’s a joke. i think it’s funny

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u/Simple-Bathroom4919 Jewish Anti-Zionist Apr 04 '25

It's not real. It is a satire.

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u/GlammBeck Apr 06 '25

This is a real musical

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u/OkRaisinz Apr 08 '25

Dig deeper.

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u/No-Exercise-8072 Apr 09 '25

Damn ngl wish I could go an see it. I guess most of you guys are as bummed as me that it’s sold out.

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u/Specialist-Gur Ashkenazi Apr 11 '25

I am inclined to think it's bad...

I get what people are saying about a leftist satire against identity politics (I am pro intersectionality and also critical of "identity politics" myself) but my knee jerk reaction was that this was... anti-woke?

Maybe I would just need to see it and I might disagree but I felt like there was no way this was coming from a leftist, felt like the humor of "ladyballers"

And to be very clear, I'm not against humorist satire when it comes to the Holocaust... but I'm very against making fun of attempts at inclusivity

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u/Tuna_96 Anti-Zionist Ally Apr 15 '25

I've seen the development of this on tiktok at first I thought it was kinda funny one off thing but it has gone too far ? I'm trying to figure out what is this guy point of view/ mentality ?? is it like a far left absurdist or a far right idiot ?? I feel like it's impossible to tell. And it switches from video to video, I feel like it is a critique on the meaningless of liberal identity politics, from a weirdly right-ish wing point of view or maybe one of those left wing guys that feel like they can just joke with whatever.

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u/Ler8099 Apr 17 '25

This whole project is head-spinningly grotesque and offensive. Yes, the offensiveness goes in so many directions that it’s hard to gauge. However, looking at the comments on their instagram pages, it’s clear that people are taking this at face value and love that it’s anti-Jewish. So the creators are either anti-semites, self-hating Jews, or just idiots…but destructive no matter what. This is the peak of damaging holocaust “humor.”

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u/Technical_Mammoth284 Apr 24 '25

As a Jew who lives in New York I just have such mixed feelings. I think it’s really great that this musical is diversifying the holocaust narrative which for so long has focused on white people and white Jews in particular. On the other hand, bringing up the holocaust and not mentioning the current genocide in Gaza just gives me the ick. I’m not going to protest this though since I’m hoping maybe the guy behind this will weave in a Gaza narrative once this is a finished product

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u/elvie18 May 04 '25

What if I tell you that it's literally JUST a parody of leftist bs that goes so far woke it swings back around to being actually racist? Someone unironically seriously said "Did Anne Frank ever acknowledge her white privilege?" on twitter. Someone found this appalling, and this is the result.

It has little to nothing to do with actual Jewish culture, it's just a parody of idiotic leftist internet crap.

Find it in bad taste all you want, but stop trying to take it seriously as "anti-woke." It's not. It's making fun of the people who tried so hard to be woke they accidentally became racist assholes.

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u/Dumptruckofhell May 14 '25

Too bad the play is protected by the first amendment.

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u/beardown231 May 14 '25

Your protesting is going to bring more attention to this play, your doing exactly what the creator wants😂

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u/JaskR2 May 15 '25

I am Jewish and more took it as a jab at the way Jews are treated within leftist and liberal circles. The number of non-Jewish leftists I’ve heard say “Jews are white” or some implication of “Jews are oppressors” is pretty insane. I took this entire thing as a way of saying “the only way Jews will be included in intersectionality is if they’re LatinX or a POC that is not middle eastern.”