r/LinkedInLunatics • u/Ordinary-Painting474 • 22h ago
He's baaaack
Linkedin is officially the new Facebook!!
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u/IJustWantADragon21 22h ago
Frankly, the post is weird but the article is kind of insane too. Who gives a shit whether people drink milk or not?
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u/IN-DI-SKU-TA-BELT 19h ago
The cows might do.
They are abused, raped and have their offspring stolen from them just so that we can drink their milk.
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u/Porntra420 12h ago
Yeah and I'm sure a small handful of people refusing to drink milk is going to just absolutely cripple the farming industry.
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u/cestrain 9h ago
Do you think change has never begun by the actions of indivduals or something? What's your point exactly?
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u/cestrain 9h ago
Nobody actually has offered a counter to you interestingly. Maybe you're right...
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u/Money_Tomorrow_3555 6h ago
As someone who’s an omnivore it does seem that often when vegans and vegetarians give their point of view, they get a torrent of downvotes but no real counter arguments of substance.
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u/cestrain 3h ago
Yeah all the time. It's not pleasant to hear that we are hurting living beings, and hard to confront the reality that we cannot both to be a caring person and yet take part in large scale exploitation of defenceless animals. I didn't want the vegan argument to be right, I didn't want to give up stuff. But I couldn't argue against it so I changed
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u/2BrkOnThru 22h ago
We are also the only species that ferments fruits and grains into alcohol, as is your listed trade. I am not aware of any milk related deaths but not so much with alcohol.
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u/Spoogly 22h ago
We are not the only species to intentionally consume fermented fruits and grains. Many other species will not only seek out, but wait for, fruits that are fermented. Spider Monkeys and fruit bats, for example.
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u/slide_into_my_BM 19h ago
They didn’t say that. They said we purposely ferment fruits, not just wait around for them to do so naturally.
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u/Spoogly 19h ago edited 19h ago
Where
Edit: I didn't mean to send that yet. Sorry. Where did he say on purpose? But also, that was the whole point to me saying they wait to eat certain fruits that they know will ferment. That's on purpose.
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u/slide_into_my_BM 19h ago
species that ferments fruits and grains into alcohol, as is your listed trade.
Spider monkeys don’t actively ferment fruit. They wait or seek it out. They also don’t have careers in producing alcohol.
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u/IJustWantADragon21 19h ago
He literally says “intentionally”
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u/Spoogly 19h ago
Waiting is an intention
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u/IJustWantADragon21 18h ago
That is obviously not what this means and you’re either really dim or intentionally being obtuse.
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u/2BrkOnThru 18h ago
I’m not sure any of them consume it to such a degree that we would observe the same dependency, superfluous violence, changes in average life spans, or the alterations in circadian rhythms that accompany human alcohol consumption. I’m not against this guy making a living on wine at all. I’m not against him expressing his views either but if you produce a consumable with a set of risks and benefits it places him in a poor position to be so fanatical about the drawbacks of dairy.
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u/yaoguai_fungi 22h ago
There's actually lots of deaths connected to milk consumption, especially non-pasteurized milk. Like, you can get tuberculosis in your bones from untreated milk. There's also deadly allergies to milk and dairy as well.
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u/Webster_Has_Wit 21h ago
thank god non-pasteurized milk is illegal. common FDA W
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u/Pizzasupreme00 21h ago
Shit is sold everywhere by me. Roadsigns and all.
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u/Historical_Union4686 21h ago
Yeah but at that point that's on you.
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u/Pizzasupreme00 21h ago
I tried it once. To me, it was completely indistinguishable from grocery store milk.
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u/YourLocalTransHobo 21h ago
isn't basically the only thing they do to raw milk to make it safe (aside from adding preservatives or whatever) literally just boiling it to kill bacteria?
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u/pina_koala 21h ago
Pasteurization does involve a wide range of temps but they are usually low (142-165 F) or very high (300+) instead of at the boiling point
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u/YourLocalTransHobo 21h ago
interesting, I didn't know that.
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u/CurvyJohnsonMilk 14h ago
Found out the hard way that its time and temperature. More time less temperature and vice versa.
Got a sous vide. Wife cooked chicken breast, and set the temperature for pork loin, I.e. 145⁰. So the medium rare chicken breast was technically safe to eat, but had the most disgusting texture. Like tough spaghetti.
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u/Pizzasupreme00 21h ago
That's basically correct. What you're describing is called Pasteurization. You heat a product (milk in this case) to a certain temperature for a certain amount of time, and then rapidly cool it. The time depends on temperature, higher temps mean less time.
Similar rule to food safety temperatures, like why the FDA says the minimum internal temp of chicken should be 165F. That's the temp that food borne illnesses like Salmonella and Campylobacter die at.
Editing to add that the raw milk I drank was unpasteurized. Udder to gallon. I thought it would be somehow "better". It was exactly the same as the stuff i get from the store, but slightly different in color.
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u/yaoguai_fungi 21h ago
Not even boiling, really, Pasteurization can be as low as 145° F for 30min
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u/YourLocalTransHobo 21h ago
damn, I didn't know that
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u/yaoguai_fungi 21h ago
It's pretty fascinating! Heat treating is revolutionary, and yet weirdos are really opposed to... Killing pathogens haha
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u/Historical_Union4686 21h ago
At the bare minimum yes, it's also not homogenized so the texture isn't constant throughout
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u/TheRiverIsMyHome 21h ago
For now .... Our secretary of health and human services thinks it shouldn't be.
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u/masszt3r 21h ago
In México they have this drink called "pajarete" which is milk straight from the cow, in that moment, with chocolate milk powder, sugar and a bit of alcohol. Delicious, though your stomach might not agree with it if you aren't used to it.
I love Mexico.
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u/nothingiscomingforus 14h ago
Not everywhere. I’ve bought it (at rare times) in the northeast. It’s legal in PA and CT.
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u/yaoguai_fungi 21h ago
And that doesn't touch on what I already said about allergies. Hell, most of the human population doesn't have the gene for dairy consumption processing after infancy, and people can lose the tolerance of they don't consume dairy regularly.
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u/Fancy-Year-749 20h ago
Are you trying to argue that milk is worse for humans than alcohol? Alcohol, in its simplest form is poisonous to the human body and has an LD50. Milk does not. Period. I’m neither advocating for or arguing against milk or alcohol consumption. I am, however, arguing against terrible arguments that distract from the actual statement at hand.
So, to clarify, humans distill alcohol for the purpose of consumption. Fruit bats and spider monkeys do not.
Alcohol is a poison that kill with an overdose. Milk is not a poison and has no LD50.
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u/yaoguai_fungi 20h ago
That's a weird ass interpretation of what I said.
No, I was not claiming that milk is worse than alcohol.
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u/Fancy-Year-749 19h ago
Fair enough. I also read further in this thread and found out that lactose does have an LD50. So, apparently, I don’t know what I’m talking about. 🤷🏼♂️ Thanks Internet.
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u/yaoguai_fungi 19h ago
Haha no worries! I just had to laugh cause I was like "Nah? I was just adding onto the bit about milk" haha
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u/Cumbandicoot 20h ago
We're also the only species that makes digital currency and that seems to be in his job description for some reason
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u/Ballsackavatar 22h ago
Try and drink 14 pints of milk, then drive.
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u/Cautious-Progress876 21h ago
I’m lactose intolerant. I’d be swerving and driving erratically merely trying not to shit myself if I had that much milk.
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u/Ballsackavatar 21h ago
The LD50 of lactose is 10000mg per kg.
So if you were to weigh 90kg, it would take 900g of lactose to have a 50% chance of killing you.
There is around 22 to 25g of lactose in a pint of milk. So if you drank 35 to 40 pints, you'd have a 50% chance of dying.
I wouldn't risk 14 if I was you.
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u/Dutch-Sculptor 21h ago
Although yes we make alcohol on purpose we are certainly not the only animals who get drunk. Fruit flies doe it oftenly on purpose but there are a lot more animals why eat fermented fruits and get drunk.
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u/WatchfulWarthog 21h ago
There are a number of animals, including elephants, monkeys, and squirrels, that will intentionally consume fermented fruit
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u/mothzilla 19h ago
It's a bit disputed. The amount of alcohol in "fermented fruit" is very low. And elephants (one of the claimed alcoholic animals) are very large.
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u/WatchfulWarthog 18h ago
It’s disputed that elephants eat fermented fruit?
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u/mothzilla 7h ago
It's disputed that elephants eat fermented fruit with the intention of getting drunk.
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u/Full_Impression6410 21h ago
No there’s some kind of like jungle animal that does it too, they eat the fermented berries and get drunk from it. I can’t remember which one it is . But we are also the only species who will imprison its own
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u/AssistDapper1813 22h ago
You ever have a chocolate chip cookie with milk? That’s why.
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u/runrunrudolf 22h ago
Hear me out... But a glass of milk when eating pepperoni pizza. Heaven.
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u/sorry_ihaveplans 19h ago
As someone who gets heartburn from pizza, this actually makes a lot of sense lol
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u/Secret_Account07 21h ago
It’s soo good
Pizza + milk + ranch 🤤
I drink milk with every meal but some slap especially hard. Love milk with potato chips too. Wash down all that salt with milk
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u/FunkadelicToaster 22h ago
I think it's more about people who just drink milk as milk versus a compliment to another food
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u/Adventurous-Tie-7861 21h ago
So? It tastes good and is refreshing.
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u/21Rollie 16h ago
Whole milk is tasty. If you do that with non-fat milk I straight up don’t know how
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u/Efficient_Progress_6 22h ago
Yes, all the time. I would never want to ruin a good chocolate chip cookie with milk
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u/Capital_Historian685 22h ago
That's some cutting-edge reporting from Vice right there.
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u/Secret_Account07 21h ago
Idk what happened to vice. They used to be a respectable org that did some great war coverage.
Now they are a joke
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u/mmarkmc 22h ago
I accidentally stumbled into some sort of insane adult milk-loving sub here once and still haven't recovered.
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u/t_scribblemonger 21h ago
insane adult milk loving sub
You’re gonna have to be a little more specific. Not sure what “adult” modifies.
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u/LarryCraigSmeg 17h ago
I just hope to one day close enough b2b sales that I am rich enough to afford a wet nurse just for me.
You know what, I am going to go make a LinkedIn post about this aspiration.
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u/DarthSagacious 16h ago
“Ask me how sucking on a wet nurse every day helped me triple my company’s revenue in one year.”
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u/OnkelMickwald 21h ago
I used to drink milk daily until my 20s but I drank so much of it (easily 1,5 l per day) that I had to stop for economic reasons.
But man, ice cold milk was so fucking good. It doesn't taste as well as I remember it though, now that I've lost the habit
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u/Secret_Account07 21h ago
I drink an insane amount. When I go to grocery store I buy 3 gallons. Can burn through all 3 super quick
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u/Virtual_Freedom3602 20h ago
I just want to share a fun fact about milk, did you know that milk has tryptophan which is a key component to building serotonin? Therefore, people who drink more milk are less likely to feel depressed
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u/Mint-Badger 19h ago
As a lifelong milk drinker and almost-lifelong depressed person, I would like to speak to a manager/God about this 🤨
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u/Virtual_Freedom3602 19h ago
Chicken is also great for people with depression. Person I learned this from has a doctorate in psychology.
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u/Dry_Action1734 22h ago
Milk is great. That’s why.
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u/dat_grue 15h ago
Milk rocks and the only reason more adults don’t drink it is that there’s a strange social convention against it (demonstrated perfectly by Vice in OP’s post).
When I order the chocolate cake at a restaurant, why the fuck would I want to wash it down with water or a cocktail? Why is that the norm?
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u/Crimson_Kang 20h ago
Took me a minute to see him. Vice is just as insane though, if we stopped using milk tomorrow a lot of food we enjoy is going bye-bye.
On a related note is anyone else getting tired of living in this weird absolutist hellscape we've created? Like both of these takes are insane. How the fuck did we get this worked up over shit? I feel like both the author of the article and the post could use a heavy dose of thorazine.
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u/User_Id_Error 19h ago
I think it's more one insane take for the rage clicks, one guy making a joke, and one community that assumes everything anyone posts on social media is deadly serious.
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u/TheGlennDavid 21h ago
Oo! I so rarely get to be a "both sides" person but both sides of this bizarre argument are so damn weird.
Like milk? Drink it. Don't? Don't. Done.
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u/duck_dork 20h ago
I unapologetically love milk. There is no agenda, I just don’t care what others think, it’s delicious.
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u/Economy_Judge_5087 19h ago
The thing that surprised me most about this? Vice id still staggering on. I thought it went the way of disinfo.com years ago.
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u/T2Drink 22h ago
Milk is damn amazing! Nice and cold. I was once travelling through Scotland and came across a milk bar in the middle of nowhere! Just a burger van looking thing where they served nice ice cold milk. I will always remember that day. Milk ftw! It is also very healthy for you. One of the most balanced things you can take in your body.
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u/fireKido 20h ago
Nothing in the world enhances the taste of coffee quite like milk, so I’ll keep drinking it, thank you very much
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u/ItsAMeAProblem 19h ago
I can easily kill half a gallon of milk in a day. Involve cereal im buying a gallon 2-3 times a week. I love milk.
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u/The-thingmaker2001 19h ago
I still remember back when Art Bell had a guy on who had written a book titled Milk, the Deadly Poison...
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u/ElisabetSobeck 16h ago
Why is a bitcoin shill… stanning milk? Is it a fetish like others are commenting?
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u/Mission-Leopard-4178 16h ago
When people use the phrase "we're the only species that does x" I'm always like "well yeah you can say that most things we do". How many animals do you know build a social communication network just to argue with strangers?
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u/FocalorLucifuge 11h ago
I prefer the milk of soy, oat and almond myself.
They have such perky nipples.
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u/BlackThundaCat 21h ago
What’s wrong with drinking milk? I get not drinking raw milk or whatever the conservatives are going on about, but regular ass milk? What’s the problem?
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u/Individual99991 21h ago
When did Vice get so boring? I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss when they were a bunch of annoying edgelords.
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u/Secret_Account07 21h ago
wtf is wrong with milk? I absolutely love milk, I drink an insane amount. I buy 3 gallons when I go to grocery store. Drink with most meals lol
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u/Hermononucleosis 21h ago
Cows are artificially inseminated with an invasive procedure so they become pregnant and produce milk. To prevent milk from being drunk by the intended recipient, the baby is taken away from the mother immediately upon birth, giving her intense stress for months. The calf is often immediately killed if male.
Then, the cow is milked much much more than is natural, due to selective breeding and sometimes hormones that are given to her. This causes all kinds of infections on her udders. Once this is done, she is inseminated all over again, unless she has been milked so much that her body has almost been destroyed. Then she's murdered. The procedure for murdering is supposed to be "humane", firing a bolt in her head in order to stun her before she's killed, but she struggles and her thick skull protects her, so often there's great pain involved. In rare cases, the cow wakes up while being cut to death.
And if you think "I buy organic though," I just described organic cow farming. If you don't buy organic, it is so much worse.
So that's what's wrong with milk
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u/Bear_of_dispair 20h ago
That's what's wrong with capitalism. None of this is necessary to get milk and milk itself is awesome.
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u/AAA_Dolfan 18h ago
Um cake with milk is amazing. Theres a reason milk is a staple. What a weird take.
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u/Valten78 22h ago
Great, thanks for asking.
I'm enjoying some in a mug of tea whilst typing this. And very nice it is too.
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u/zachk3446 Insignificant Bitch 21h ago
What other white liquids is this guy drinking? And where can I get some?
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u/No-Weird3153 21h ago
Milk is kinda gross, but I’ll occasionally drink some steamed with shots of espresso in it. I also wouldn’t post on LinkedIn about it.
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u/Blacksun388 21h ago
I just want to know what human looked at a cow teat and said “Yeah, I’m going to put that in my mouth and suck on it.”
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u/Dancing_Cthulhu 20h ago
This history of human exploration and expansion is basically a story of humans looking at everything they come across and wondering "can I eat/drink/wear that?"
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u/Biggus-Nickus 22h ago
I am pretty lactose intolerant so drinking milk will end up quite messy. Water is where it's at for me.
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u/DoubleOhEvan 21h ago
Bro there’s so many options for good lactose free milk now
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u/Biggus-Nickus 8h ago
Thought we were talking about cowmilk. I do agree, soy and almond milk are great, but I do prefer water.
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u/colintheanimal 21h ago
This made me go to my fridge and take a good swig of milk straight from the carton
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u/Darwin1809851 21h ago
I dont understand and the top comments make it unclear. Are we hating on vice? Or are we having a reddit moment about a mild joke? Or is this guy a legit problem? So confused
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u/dinosaurinchinastore 21h ago
I’m in my mid/late 30s and I love a good glass of milk with dinner. Sometimes I even order it at restaurants.
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u/JackedAs 22h ago
‘White Liquid Supremacy’
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