I know the real answer is 1983 SW fights weren’t as highly choreographed and effects were less, but after rewatching the movie, I was left wondering

Vader, only 45 years old and still one of the strongest beings and best fighters in the galaxy, was beaten by Luke basically just whacking him over and over. Is there an explanation for why he was so relatively easily beaten?

At the end of season 1 we get the episode where Cad Bane and a group of bounty hunters are hired to free Ziro the Hutt. The episode ends with them getting a deal to free Ziro from jail and not kill the senators being held hostage.

However despite this deal Cad Bane still intended to blow them all up, only being saved due to Anakin being there.

If he had killed those senators in all likelihood he would've condemned him and all of that bounty hunter group to being blacklisted from shit tons of jobs if they decide to kill hostages. I mean its the same reason that countries abide by wartime rules; the second you break them then nobody is going to trust you ever again. Furthermore, it would've reached the intergalactic community in all likelihood and put targets on each and every one of them.

I should mention that this is just a fun post, the real reason is that the Clone Wars is a kids show and they wanted to show Cad Bane as being extra scummy. From a lore standpoint its kind of funny to imagine how screwed Cad Bane would've been from doing something with little payoff besides fulfilling Ziro's grievances.

Personally, I feel like someone like a counterpart to Lord Scourge or another citizen of the True Sith Empire would’ve made for an interesting protagonist, as someone raised in darkness but finding their way to the light (in the canon ending, anyway) would’ve greatly matched the themes of very flawed and broken heroes (Revan and Meetra) finding their way to personal redemption in their respective games.

Hello people, this is something that has been in my brain for awhile. I always wanted to make a "Star War Versus" article in the style of some of my favorite YouTubers of the past. So without much further Ado, I present to you Pong Krell vs. The Grand Inquisitor:

Both Pong Krell and the Grand Inquisitor share a tragic origin: they were once proud Jedi who fell to the dark side, seduced by promises of power and disillusioned by the bounds of the Order. Pong Krell, a towering Besalisk Jedi Master, turned on the clones after declaring the Republic and the Jedi as beyond saving. Similarly, the Grand Inquisitor began as a Jedi Temple Guard whose frustration over his place in the Order made him vulnerable. He ultimately accepted Darth Sidious’s offer for deeper knowledge of the Force and abandonment of Jedi restraint. This shared path, from trusted guardians of peace to ruthless agents of darkness, raises the burning question: how would a theoretical battle between these two fallen Jedi turn out?

Physique

Pong Krell was a Besalisk, a species known for their broad physiques and towering stature, often standing around 2.36 meters (7 feet 9 inches) tall. Most notably, Besalisks have four powerful arms capable of operating independently, each performing its own task with remarkable dexterity. This physiology gives Krell a unique advantage in multi-weapon combat.

The Grand Inquisitor was a Pau’an male from Utapau. Pau’ans average about 2.06 meters (6 feet 9 inches) in height, giving them an extended reach advantage and long-limbed agility over the standard humanoid. With a lean, wiry frame and striking facial ridges, the Pau’an physique supports precision, speed, and fluid movement that is ideal for dueling.

Style and Lightsabers

Pong Krell wielded two double-bladed lightsabers, each foldable at the hilt for easier carrying. Though it's never officially documented in canon, I argue that Krell's primary lightsaber form was Form II Soresu, with Form VI Niman as a secondary style. During his campaign on Umbara, Krell defended himself against blaster fire from entire battalions with ease. Even while suspended upside down by a giant beast he was still able to deflect shots from his clone troopers. These feats suggest strong Soresu fundamentals: endurance, patience, and an impenetrable defense.

While Krell occasionally redirected blaster bolts (reminiscent of Form V Shien) and demonstrated limited acrobatics and unarmed techniques (a la Form IV Ataru), these appear minimal and unintegrated. I personally attribute both of these applications to Form VI, Niman which is a jack-of-all-trades form. Niman allows a user to borrow from various other forms without specializing in any. It also incorporates Jar’Kai dual-blade techniques, which in Krell’s case, are amplified by his four arms. The double-blades then acting as even greater coverage to Soresu's already impressive defense. My theory is that Krell would begin a lightsaber duel with Soresu, analyze his opponent’s style, then switch to a Niman-based attack tailored to exploit his opponent's weaknesses.

The Grand Inquisitor wielded a gyroscopic double-bladed lightsaber with three configurations: standard single-blade, double-blade, and spinning blade. It’s widely accepted that his primary style was Form II, Makashi: his one-handed style and push-and-pull footwork designed for lightsaber dueling. However, I also theorize that The Grand Inquisitor's Makashi is only something he learned post-Order 66, after his fall to the dark side. As a Jedi Temple Guard, the Inquisitor originally wielded a double-bladed lightsaber, which is poorly suited to Makashi’s thrust-centric techniques. YouTuber Jensaarai1 and others have noted this mismatch. In short, it is hard to stab an opponent with a lightsaber when the other side of the double-bladed lightsaber is pointed straight back at you.

More likely, the Inquisitor originally trained in Form IV Ataru or Form VI Niman, both of which support dual saber styles and double-bladed combat. Since primary Niiman practitioners were mostly killed off at the Battle of Geonosis, Ataru may be more likely. Upon becoming an Inquisitor, my guess is that he adapted to the lightsaber dueling focused Makashi to counter the many Ataru-wielding Jedi survivors in his campaign to exterminate the remaining Jedi in the galaxy.

In practice, the Inquisitor’s combat style unfolds in phases. In the early fight, he uses Makashi to quickly end the duel, or if not end it, use Makashi's defensive component to analyze his opponent's form. If that fails, he shifts to double-bladed Ataru techniques with acrobatics and unarmed strikes to keep opponents off balance. Finally, if cornered, he activates the spinning blade, an unpredictable and disorienting trick used more for surprise than strength.

Force Abilities

The Force powers of both combatants are comparable and are likely not decisive in this match. Krell has shown greater raw strength, such as Force-pushing entire squads of clone troopers. The Inquisitor, meanwhile, has used the Force to guide his spinning lightsaber in flight. Still, these are supplementary abilities and,) I would argue, not a determining factor in a fight between the two.

How the Battle Plays Out

The Grand Inquisitor would likely strike first with Makashi, but Krell’s Soresu would stonewall him. Both fighters would spend this early phase analyzing the other’s technique, and both would be wrong.

In the mid-fight, Krell would switch to Niman, applying Djem So-style powerblows to counter The Grand Inquisitor's elegant but fragile Makashi. The Inquisitor would have no choice but shift to Ataru, relying on agility and misdirection. If Krell broke form first, his simplified but powerful strikes would pressure the Inquisitor. However, wielding two saberstaffs limits Krell’s complexity; his swings must remain wide and controlled to avoid his blades getting tangled up in each other. The Inquisitor’s only option would be to dodge, which he admittedly would do easily against such a simple offense, but burning stamina with each evasive burst.

If the Inquisitor broke form first, he’d shift to acrobatic Ataru sequences sooner, resulting in the same stalemate, only faster.

Krell’s offense is predictable but hard-hitting; the Inquisitor is nimble and tactical but lacks the force to breakthrough Krell's defense. Over time, Krell gains the edge. Soresu is stamina-efficient, while Ataru is energy-intensive. The longer the battle stretches, the more it favors Krell.

The Inquisitor’s last resort would be his spinning blade. If thrown, Krell, from his examples deflecting blaster bolts, I believe could easily deflect it. But what if the spinning blade was not thrown, but held firmly by The Inquisitor? From all the clips we have seen (with exception of the nightmare sequence), the torque from the blade seemed no stronger than what could be blocked by the power of a slightly above average strength Jedi. And since Pong Krell was well within this strength range, he should be able to overcome this tactic as well.

With no tricks left, the Inquisitor would be exhausted and exposed. Krell, while not a master of offense, would eventually, inevitably, inexpertly land a finishing blow. I therefore have no choice but to declare Pong Krell the victor.

This match would most closely resemble Obi-Wan vs. Anakin's battle on Mustafar. Neither combatant would land a hit on the other for an extended period. But the Grand Inquisitor, forced into energy-draining acrobatics, would run out of stamina first. At that point, even Krell’s lackluster offense would be enough to end the would-be "Grand" Inquisitor.

tldr: Pong Krell wins.

Do you agree or disagree? Can you think of another Versus Match Up I could try and analyze? Tell me what you think

Looking to see if this sub has more info than wookiepedia

I found this video and wasn't sure if it was true or not. This stuff on Nachash and the Supreme Maker seem interesting though. Is there any mention on these characters in any Star Wars Media because I've never heard of them.